Used Müller Full Mueller Pyropure Wfi System for sale (43,959)

Condition: excellent (used), Offer consisting of: Equipment Collating machine * Müller Martini ZTM 1571 with ASIR * 14 stations * Year of construction 2001 * 1 manual station * Outfeed gate 1572 (year of construction 2005) * 1 positioning element Perfect binder Acoro A5 * Milling and spine processing station * Hotmelt spine gluing unit with an 80-liter pre-melter * Hotmelt side gluing unit with an 18-liter pre-melter * Drum transfer feeder * Pressing station * Lay-down device * Drying section approx. 30 m Three-knife trimmer Müller Martini Merit-S * Year of construction 1998 * Infeed on the right * Pressing ram * Cutting cassettes No. 1–21 * 2 sets of knives Cross cutter CB-16 * Year of construction 1997 * Mobile base machine * Infeed belt with top belts * Turret for stack heights up to 240 mm * Pneumatic slide opening * Retractable ejector Additional equipment * Nordson PUR pre-melter (year of construction 2001) * PUR spine gluing unit * Special spine processing “Fibre Rougher” (new part) * Additional sets of knives for the three-knife trimmer Notes * Compressed air supply (6 bar), compressed air, vacuum and chip extraction required on site. * Inspection possible at any time by appointment. * Assistance with loading can be arranged. Laodpfszivbaex An Isd

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2004, Format: 0x0 Speed: 3.900 Takte/Std. Laedpfxsznpcue An Isd Net Weight: NULL Equipment: VBF ANE (2004) casing-in line with monitor ??? Book upending conveyor at the feed section Automatic dust jacket feeder Scoring Station Cover separation station Case closing station VBF NE (2006) ??? Book lay-down belt at the delivery Straight-line delivery Book format (Height x Width) (Min) 125 x 95 mm (Max) 390 x 305 mm Block thickness / Book thickness (Min) 5 mm (Max) 80 mm Paper weight in the range from min. 60 g/qm2 to max. 250 g/qm2

Year of construction: 2002, condition: good (used), functionality: fully functional, Full automatic pack infeed to Moulder Speed up to 120 M/Min Complete with manuals Automatic board turner. single board feeding system Min/Max length 820mm/5400mm Ljdpszlbibjfx An Ijad

Condition: excellent (used), axle configuration: 3 axles, first registration: 08/2026, loading space length: 13,700 mm, loading space width: 2,500 mm, loading space height: 2,780 mm, total length: 13,900 mm, total width: 2,550 mm, total height: 4,000 mm, suspension: air, tire size: 385/55R22,5, wheelbase: 8,790 mm, color: other, Year of construction: 2026, Equipment: ABS, tail-lift, = Additional Options and Accessories = - EBS - Tail lift = Notes = Number of axles: 3, Payload: 30950 kg, Tare weight: 8050 kg, Gross weight: 39000 kg, Type of chassis: Full chassis, Chassis material: Steel, Kingpin size: 2 inch, Suspension type: Full air, ABS, EBS, Body construction year: 2026, Axle type: SAF, Tail lift, Tail lift design: under-folding tail lift, Tail lift load capacity: 2000 kg, Tail lift manufacturer: Dhollandia, Tail lift material: Steel and aluminum, Tail lift size: 240x170, Battery for ramp, TAILLIFT 2,000 KG 3x 9 TON SAF AXLES DISC BRAKES = Additional Information = General Information Cab: Day cab Registration number: OX-74-GS Powertrain Fuel type: Diesel Transmission Gearbox: Manual gearbox Axle Configuration Laedpfx Anszk Un Uj Ijd Tire size: 385/55R22.5 Brakes: Disc brakes Suspension: Air suspension Axle 1: Lift axle; Tire tread depth left: 14 mm; Tire tread depth right: 14 mm Axle 2: Tire tread depth left: 14 mm; Tire tread depth right: 14 mm Axle 3: Lift axle; Tire tread depth left: 14 mm; Tire tread depth right: 14 mm Weights Tare weight: 8,050 kg Payload: 30,950 kg GVW: 39,000 kg Functional Tail lift: Dhollandia, under-run, 2000 kg Environmental Emission class: Euro 0 Condition Technical condition: very good Optical condition: very good Damage: none = Company Information = Kleyn Trucks is one of the world's largest independent used vehicle dealerships. Here, you can choose from a constantly changing stock of 1200 used trucks, tractor units, and trailers. Our range includes all European brands from various production years and price ranges. Why buy from Kleyn Trucks? Simple! • Large, rapidly changing stock • Recognizable quality • Good price • Correct business practices • We speak many languages • We understand our customers • Assistance with import and transport • (Export) registration is quickly arranged • Expert technical services • The security of "recognizable quality" • And more.... Please visit our website for special offers and a complete inventory: Leasing through Kleyn Trucks is possible in most European countries! Quickly calculate your leasing rate and send an inquiry via our website. Ask directly about our European warranty package.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2012, functionality: fully functional, MBM ASAS ME Pump cleaning system for Abrasve Waterjet machines Lasdpfx Aozh U Naen Isd Used - construction Year 2012

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2008, Saddle stitcher Müller Martini Primera A110 Year: 2008 +/- 9.400 production hours Operation / Control - Colour monitor with touch screen Feeders - Horizontal signature feeders: 6 x 1555 - Cover feeder: 1529 - Pump(s) Stitching unit Müller Martini 0380.0452 - Oblique sheet control - Thickness control - Stitching heads: 2x HK75 - Delivery to the left - Reject gate, for incomplete products Trimmer Müller Martini 0449.0430 - Sets of knives: 1 - Center cutting device - Sets of knives: 1 Delivery Müller Martini Perfetto (0450.0401) - Compensating stacker Ljdjx Dkk Ejpfx An Isad - Delivery to the left Description modified on 4-4-2025

Condition: used, empty load weight: 3,250 kg, maximum load weight: 10,250 kg, overall weight: 13,500 kg, axle configuration: 2 axles, first registration: 09/2004, loading space length: 4,500 mm, loading space width: 2,300 mm, loading space height: 600 mm, suspension: steel, color: orange, mileage: 1,001 km, gearing type: other, driver cabin: other, Vehicle location: en route / in transit, steel body, leaf spring suspension, 2 axles, BPW axles, tandem axle, side protection, front support, swing-out gates, drawbar with adjustable height. Lsdjznlduepfx An Iead Body: 3-sided tipper trailer. All information is provided without guarantee as the trailer is currently en route! ACCESSORY INFORMATION IS PROVIDED WITHOUT GUARANTEE; subject to changes, prior sale, and errors!

Year of construction: 2001, condition: used, Hard cover book line VBF / Muller Martini Diamant Year: 2001 Description: - Semi automatic setting - Book measuring table - Stand-alone pre-heating device: IR - Infeed conveyor - Starfeeder - Rounding and backing station - Glue unit - Gauzing station - Book mark suction device - Glue unit - Head and tail banding station - Pressing station - Casing-in station - Case infeed device - Case pre-stacking conveyor - Case bending station - Case forming station Lsdpfx Anoyid Nwe Ijad - Coldglue circulation pump - Hotmelt nozzle glue system for joint gluing in casing-in section Building in machine VBF / Muller Martini EP 680 L Year: 2000 Description: - Book forming station - Delivery - Delivery to the left Book stacker VBF / Muller Martini BLSD 600 D Year: 2001 Book block format (max): 380 x 270 x 80 mm (hxwxt) Book block format (min): 100 x 100 x 4 mm (hxwxt) Size range opened case (max): 660 x 390 mm Size range opened case (min): 190 x 105 mm Max. mechanical speed: 3.600 cycles / hour Note!: Specifications are subject to typographical errors and changes in comparable models by the manufacturer!

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1987, No. 3186 Frame saw / gang saw MÜLLER VGU / 4/71 Used, year of construction 1987 Passage 710 mm Drive motor 75 kW Hydraulic belt tensioning Manual width adjustment Including hydraulic clamping carriage, riving knife, gauges for width adjustment, electrical control cabinet, various saw blades Sale on behalf of customer, ex location near 47051 Duisburg, without dismantling, without transport and assembly Laedpfxovcqane An Ijd Errors in description and price excepted Dismantling, transport and loading by us optionally possible In order to avoid possible misunderstandings, an on-site inspection by appointment is possible and recommended Sold as is Technical details, condition description, year of construction and scope of delivery according to manufacturer's brochure or previous owner, without guarantee Subject to prior sale For used machines, any warranty is excluded, the following applies: “purchased as seen” Images and videos serve as examples and do not represent the actual scope of delivery Terms of payment: Prices plus VAT, payment before collection or dispatch Terms of delivery: ex location

Condition: excellent (used), For sale: Professional automatic Vickers hardness tester Mitutoyo HV-100, made in Japan, in excellent technical and visual condition. The device is equipped with the AUTOVICK automatic measurement system and the Mitutoyo Vision Unit, enabling fast, repeatable and fully automatic hardness measurements without operator subjectivity. Intended for measurement laboratories, quality control departments, manufacturing plants, automotive, aerospace, and toolmaking sectors. —— Key information • Measurement method: Vickers (HV) • Model: HV-100 (series HV-100B / HV-100C / 100D) • Load range: up to 100 kgf • Automatic AUTOVICK system • Integrated Mitutoyo Vision Unit • Automatic impression recognition and HV calculation • Made in Japan Laedpfjyc H I Sex An Isd • Power supply: 230 V • Stable, heavy-duty laboratory construction —— Technical condition • Device operational and complete • Very good visual condition • Regularly used in an industrial environment • Last technical inspection: 2020 • Ready for immediate operation after connection —— Included in the set • Mitutoyo HV-100 hardness tester • Vision Unit (measuring camera) • AUTOVICK automatic system • Set of weights • Original accessories and holders • Transport cases with equipment • Original Mitutoyo documentation and manuals • Weight: 65 kg

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 1985, I sell hydraulic press MÜLLER HEP 10.20.35, year of production 1985. the press worked until the very end in bdb condition. Review of the press in 2023. Ljdpfxsudph Ij An Ioad

Condition: excellent (used), Professional industrial hydraulic press from the renowned German manufacturer MÜLLER – Fritz Müller Pressenfabrik Esslingen. Robust and heavy-duty construction designed for pressing, stamping, punching, and forming metal and technical components. The machine is in good visual and technical condition. Equipped with manual controls, stroke counter, and pressure gauge. This industrial-grade design is ideal for manufacturing plants, tool shops, workshops, and production lines. Technical specifications: Manufacturer: MÜLLER Model: S 16.1.20 Year of manufacture: 1977 Machine number: 9183 Machine type: hydraulic press Two-hand control Stroke counter Pressure gauge Overrun path: 5 mm Overrun time: 35 ms Safety distance: 55 mm Robust steel frame Three-phase power supply Applications: - Pressing of metal components - Stamping - Punching Lajdjy St R Tjpfx An Ijd - Forming parts - Production and workshop operations - Sheet metal and technical parts processing Delivery on pallet or loading via forklift possible.

Condition: excellent (used), I am offering a professional DELO dispensing system – DELO-DIV pilot with a DELO-DIV VD450 manual dispenser. This equipment is designed for precise and controlled dispensing of adhesives and various media in industrial applications. The system is ideally suited for use in: • Electronics manufacturing • Automotive sector • Precision assembly • Laboratories and R&D • High-repeatability technical bonding processes Operation is managed via the DELO-DIV pilot touchscreen panel, which allows: • Saving and selection of dispensing programs • Manual dispensing (manual mode) • Precise adjustment of working parameters • Intuitive operator interface The DELO-DIV VD450 manual dispenser ensures high application accuracy and process stability. — Condition • Used • Fully functional • Normal signs of use • The unit powers on and responds correctly (visible in the pictures) — Lajdpfjyc H U Sox An Iod Set includes • DELO-DIV pilot controller (touchscreen panel) • DELO-DIV VD450 manual dispenser • Cables / connectors as shown in the photos — Additional information • Manufactured in Germany • CE / UKCA marking • Ideal for production facilities and process integrators

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2024, TBM-D 2009006 – Position Sensor Box / Inclination Sensor Box V3 Manufacturer: TBM SW-Entwicklung und Elektronik GmbH (Germany) Ljdpfsyc H R Tsx An Isad Production date: 02/2024 Power supply: 12 V DC, power consumption 70 W Condition: used, very good, fully functional Professional measurement/control box designed for industrial applications. The device is used for handling and processing signals from position/inclination sensors in test systems, automation, and research & development stations. Equipment and features: • LCD display for parameter presentation • Numeric keypad for configuration and operation • D-Sub communication interface • 12 V power sockets • Robust aluminum housing • CE marking • Device inspected (TBM inspection stickers)

Condition: used, table length 2400 mm table width 1200 mm table height 200 mm bore 28 mm 100 x 100 mm material thickness ca. 24,5 - 27 mm Ledszh N Udjpfx An Iead 200 mm work height max. 850 mm Weight 980 kg Special item - The drill pattern on all side rails is offset downwards by approx. 1 mm. The clamping dimension for angle or table-to-table connection is not specified. >. - high-quality steel S355J2+N + plasma nitriding - Drill holes in side panel in diagonal grid - Corners, edges and drill holes bevelled 45 - Construction reinforced by ribs - incl. base basic equipment 650 mm

Condition: used, overall weight: 24,000 kg, axle configuration: > 3 axles, first registration: 09/2008, * Giant axles * 50mm drawbar * Hydraulic loading ramps * Technically permissible total weight: 40,000 kg * Unladen weight: 8,950 kg -----Internal vehicle number: 12296 Lsdpfx Anszntk Ao Iead Errors and prior sale excepted.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2007, Stream feeders Müller Martini 3738 Year: 2007 Description: - Stream feeders: 6 x Laodozi Sdkspfx An Ied

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2003, functionality: fully functional, MULLER MARTINI CONCEPT 6 F Web Offset Printing Machine for Label and Form Printing Manufacturer Müller Martini AG, Zofingen, Switzerland Production Year 2003 Lajdezl A R Hepfx An Isd • number of Colours: 6 • counter: 59 mil. impressions • max print 515 mm • roll width 200 - 520 mm • speed max 300 m / min • unwinder roll diameter max 1270 mm • electromotoric roll lifting • BST EKR web edge regulation double-sided scanning • automatic ink roller washing • printing plate thickness 0.15 - 0.3 mm • plate bending machine • Technotrans Alpha d • alcohol dampening • Schinler printing unit tempering • paper web cooling • IST UV drying • 6 UV lamps • 6 ink mist extraction devices • perforation unit 2303 • roll - roll production • roll - fold • roll - sheet • printable material 50 - 180 fg/m2 •

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2008, Perfect binding line Müller Martini Pantera (1577) Year: 2008-2000 - 1991 Consisting of Gathering machine Müller Martini 1571 Year: 2000 Description: - Hand feeding station Ljdpfsy R Ty Eex An Iead - Number of gathering stations: 12 - ASAC automatic self adjusting calliper - Excluding pump(s) - Set up element - Transfer into the binder Perfect binder Müller Martini Pantera (1577) Year: 2008 Description: - Colour monitor with touch screen - Hand feeding - Number of clamps: 12 - Milling and roughening station - Dust extraction system - PUR spine gluing unit - PUR premelter for PUR spine glue unit: MOD 30 POT (2007) - Hotmelt side glue - Premelter for side glue unit: Nordson Durablue 4 - Gauzing station - Drum cover feeder - Scoring station - Nipping and pressing station - Lay down device Max. mechanical speed: up to 4.000 cycles/h Maximum size range: 380 x 320 x 50 mm Minimum size range: 120 x 100 x 2 mm Note!: Specifications are subject to typographical errors and changes in comparable models by the manufacturer! Documents

Condition: used, maximum load weight: 38,230 kg, overall weight: 48,000 kg, axle configuration: 3 axles, first registration: 06/2026, loading space length: 8,500 mm, loading space width: 2,520 mm, Müller-Mitteltal Low-loader with Wheel Recesses TS 3 RM ML 30.0, 2 Loading Heights and Ramps * Fifth wheel load increase from 12 t to 18 t incl. Kingpin mounted in: Second kingpin position 2", kingpin up to and incl. 5th wheel height 2,750 mm. Rear turning radius approx. 2,400 mm in clear width (a minimum clearance of 150 mm is recommended). Forward turning radius 1,480 mm or 1,570 mm with spare wheel. Note: Sufficient clearance to the towing vehicle must be ensured by the customer. * Extension parts for the wheel recesses at the front and bottom at the rear (205 mm deep). 6 pieces incl. insertion boards for wheel recesses at the rear. Board holder as receiving shafts according to code 09.112. Aluminum compressed air tank instead of steel. * Smartboard control box mounted on the trailer as an information tool with pressure sensors incl., exclusively for overall axle load display. Display option can be selected via the control box or in the truck via the EBS air suspension system (truck manufacturer-dependent). * ?SP-Combination Package: Tool box with 45° corners made of galvanized sheet steel, additionally powder-coated in RAL 9006 white aluminum, on the fifth wheel platform, W=2,480 x H=500 mm with a folding lid on top, side doors and sloping corners. Incl. aluminum side walls that can be folded down to the fifth wheel platform (500 mm high), aluminum rear wall plugged in (150 mm high), aluminum side panels painted inside and out in RAL 9006 white aluminum. Incl. rear uprights, foldable and detachable, galvanized (without topcoat). Incl. bolted front structure. Length of front cross member to 5th wheel height 3,935 mm. Forward turning radius, without spare wheel, at 5th wheel height 2,450 mm or 2,750 mm, approx. 1,750 mm or approx. 1,480 mm. Ledpfxoy R Ipuo An Ijad * 2 container locking mechanisms recessed into the front cross member. * 3 receiving shafts under the fifth wheel platform for storing optional aluminum ramps or wooden planks for covering the wheel recesses. * Folding/extendable outrigger (galvanized) and wooden planks for widening incl. (not on the rear slope), plank holder on the fifth wheel platform (the track width of the load may be a maximum of 2,500 mm). * Second LED position light on the warning package at the front and rear (double lighting), only in combination with the warning package. * 2 LED reversing lights on the rear of the trailer, switched with reverse gear (suitable for 12 V and 24 V), max. 2 additional lights in total. * 7-pole socket on the rear, wired for overhang lighting with tail light (58 R) and ground. * Rubber mat on the loading ramp on the left and right (approx. 860 mm long) 190 07644 rubber strip, on the inner plank of the one-piece ramps. * Central lubrication system fully automatic with pump (24 V), grease tank and integrated trailer control, without connection to the ramps (in the case of steering: incl. connection of the distributor of the fifth wheel platform). Note: Only possible with towing vehicles with a 24 V lighting system! Intermediate sale and errors are expressly reserved! Sale exclusively subject to our general terms and conditions (AGB). Important note - Important information: Despite careful checking of all details in our offer, errors may occur. Some of these are caused by transmission errors in the systems of the various platform providers. Therefore, we would like to point out that all information is provided without guarantee and does not c

Condition: used, axle configuration: > 3 axles, first registration: 09/2018, total length: 11,830 mm, total width: 2,550 mm, total height: 3,720 mm, suspension: air, tire size: 235/75R17,5, color: other, Year of construction: 2018, Equipment: ABS, tail-lift, = Additional Options and Accessories = - EBS - Hydraulic system - Tail lift = Notes = Number of axles: 4, Tare weight: 9900 kg, Gross weight: 40000 kg, Chassis type: Full chassis, Chassis material: Steel, Suspension type: Full air, ABS, EBS, Hydraulic system, Body year of construction: 2018, Body material: Steel, Ramps: Hydraulically controlled, Axle type: BPW, Tail lift, Tail lift design: Rear door, Tail lift material: Steel, WHEEL WELL / DOUBLE HYDRAULIC RAMPS / 40T TECHNICAL / GALVANIZED / MODIFIABLE = Additional Information = General information Cab: Day cab License plate: KLEYN1 Powertrain Fuel type: Diesel Transmission Gearbox: Manual gearbox Axle Configuration Tire size: 235/75R17.5 Brakes: Drum brakes Suspension: Air suspension Axle 1: Double tires; Steered; Tire tread depth left inside: 10 mm; Tire tread depth left outside: 10 mm; Tire tread depth right inside: 11 mm; Tire tread depth right outside: 10 mm Lasdsyqp Tmepfx An Ied Axle 2: Double tires; Tire tread depth left inside: 8 mm; Tire tread depth left outside: 7 mm; Tire tread depth right inside: 7 mm; Tire tread depth right outside: 7 mm Axle 3: Double tires; Tire tread depth left inside: 7 mm; Tire tread depth left outside: 7 mm; Tire tread depth right inside: 10 mm; Tire tread depth right outside: 10 mm Axle 4: Double tires; Tire tread depth left inside: 7 mm; Tire tread depth left outside: 6 mm; Tire tread depth right inside: 4 mm; Tire tread depth right outside: 6 mm Weights Unladen weight: 9,900 kg Payload: 30,100 kg GVW: 40,000 kg Functional Tail lift: Rear door Loading area height: 89 cm Environmental Emission class: Euro 0 Condition Overall condition: average Technical condition: average Optical condition: average Damage: none Financial Information Leasing price: €661 per month (default, 60 months); Inquire for more information and conditions = Company Information = Kleyn Trucks is one of the world's largest independent dealers in used vehicles. Here you can choose from a constantly changing stock of 1200 used trucks, tractors, and trailers. Our range includes all European brands in various years of manufacture and price ranges. Why buy from Kleyn Trucks? Simple! • Large, rapidly changing stock • Recognizable quality • Good price • Proper business practices • We speak many languages • We understand our customers • Support with import and transport • (Export) registration can be arranged quickly • Expert technical services • The security of "recognizable quality" • And more.... Please visit our website for special offers and a complete inventory: Leasing via Kleyn Trucks is possible in most European countries! Calculate your leasing rate quickly and send an inquiry via our website. Ask directly about our European warranty package.

Condition: new, maximum load weight: 8,770 kg, Year of construction: 2025, ABS Müller Mitteltal ETÜ TA R 11.9 Tandem low-loader with many extras: Equipment: 2 spring-loaded supports for 400mm high steel side walls Reinforced and certified superstructure according to EN 12642 XL, including cargo securing certificate 10 UVV lashing eyes in the existing hole pattern in the outer frame Additional wooden floor in a clamped design Tires 235/75R17.5 4 BPW axles instead of GIGANT Platform extension by 870 mm to 6,270 mm Ramps in one piece with hot-dip galvanized grating in a non-slip design Lsdpfx Aoxcxmfsn Ioad Lockable tool box with a payload of 45 kg Paint: Wheels silver Chassis/front panel/drawbar/rear panel/stakes/ramps hot-dip galvanized Axles/springs black Side walls RAL2011 traffic orange We would be happy to offer you suitable financing, hire purchase, or leasing options. Delivery or shipping by arrangement. We always have a selection of new equipment in stock and equipment available for demonstration. Please contact us! We rent out vehicles with and without drivers and machinery. A large number of used machines and equipment are constantly available. Subject to technical changes, errors, and prior sale.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1998, Press force: 250 t Frame width: 1350 mm Stroke: 400 mm Installation height: 600 mm Table dimensions: 1250x800 mm Side clearance: 640 mm Table height: 800 mm Machine weight (approx.): 36,000 kg Space required (approx.): 3600x2800x5700 mm Maintenance/Service/Spare parts: Lasdpfx Anozhupmj Ied - 2012: New display screen - 2017: Hydraulic pump completely overhauled - 2017: Sitema fall protection system renewed - 2018: New seals for the press cylinder - 2018: New seals for the control block - 2018: Oil change including tank cleaning - Annual UVV inspection of the press and safety devices

Condition: used, Aging machine, brushing machine QuickWood 1/26 Ljdpfjzkh E Tjx An Iead

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2026, MOULDER INFEED IF-100 MAX FEED SPEED 100M/MIN MAX LENGTH 6100MM MIN LENGTH 1500MM Ljdpfjy Hb U Nox An Iead FLAT CHAIN CROSS FEED WITH 5 CHAINS INVERTER DRIVE ACCELERATOR 5KW MAX WIDTH 250MM MIN WIDTH 50MM MAX THICKNESS 100MM MINIMUM THICKNESS 12MM 4X FEED ROLLERS 180MM MOULDER OUTFEED OF-100 DROP LEAF OUTFEED CAPABLE OF HANDLING ALL SIZES AS PER IF-100 INFEED CROSS FEED TABLE WITH 7X BELTS SUITABLE FOR UP TO 100M/MIN AVAILABLE EX STOCK PRICE INCLUDES INFEED AND OUTFEED POSSIBLE TO OFFER SUITABLE MOULDER AS NEEDED, WEINIG OR LEADERMAC !!!