Used Diez Aws-C 9070 Cs for sale (54,345)

Condition: used, mileage: 2,25,553 km, power: 375 kW (509.86 HP), first registration: 06/2014, fuel type: diesel, fuel: diesel, driver cabin: sleeper cab, Year of construction: 2014, Equipment: air conditioning, parking heater, Cab: High sleeper cab GVW: 120.000 kg = Additional options and accessories = - Heater - Sleeper cab - Vehicle heater = Remarks = Fgsdpez I Artofx Ap Doh = Additional options and accessories = - Driver seat air-cushioned = More information = Steering wheel placement: Left Production country: DE Please contact Theo Lelie , , ) for more information

Condition: excellent (used), mileage: 2,63,807 km, power: 375 kW (509.86 HP), first registration: 03/2019, fuel type: diesel, tire size: 385/65R22.5, axle configuration: 8x6, fuel: diesel, brakes: retarder, color: red, driver cabin: day cab, gearing type: mechanical, number of gears: 8, emission class: euro6, suspension: steel, total length: 9,050 mm, total width: 2,550 mm, permissible axle load (axle 1): 7,500 kg, permissible axle load (axle 2): 7,500 kg, permissible axle load (axle 3): 13,000 kg, Year of construction: 2019, Equipment: ABS, AdBlue, EBS, air conditioning, airbag, central locking, cruise control, differential lock, electric window regulation, fog lights, power assisted steering, retarder, soot filter, traction control, trailer coupling, = Additional options and accessories = - Alarm system - All-wheel drive - Aluminum fuel tank - Leaf spring suspension - High beam headlights - Speed limiter - Intarder - Air conditioning - Air horn - Particle filter - Radio/CD player - Radio/cassette player - Rear view camera - Sun visor - Stability control - Bumpers in body color - Auxiliary heating system - Toolbox - Xenon lighting - Power take-off (PTO) - Tow hitch Fgedpszv D R Ajfx Ap Doh = Notes = Mercedes-Benz AROCS 4151 8x6 Voith Retarder 263,807 km 2019 Leaf spring suspension Drum brakes Tires 100% Manual transmission Rear view camera Air conditioning Heated seats Euro 6 French truck Chassis number: WDB96423210334826 Video of the truck (YouTube): EXPORT SERVICES ————— • Austrian transit registration/license plate with insurance for 21 days • Transport to any port in the Netherlands and Belgium • Truck transport with trailer The prices for export services are exclusive of the offer price. Please contact us for further information. No rights can be derived from incorrect information in the advertisement. GEERTS Trucks & Trailers always strives to ensure the accuracy of all information. = Further information = Technical information Number of cylinders: 6 Engine displacement: 12,809 cc Axle configuration Brakes: Drum brakes Suspension: Leaf spring suspension Front axle 1: Tire size: 385/65R22.5; Differential lock; Max. axle load: 7500 kg; Steered; Axle brand: APOLLO; Tire tread left: 100%; Tire tread right: 100%; Reduction: External planetary axles Front axle 2: Tire size: 385/65R22.5; Max. axle load: 7500 kg; Steered; Axle brand: APOLLO; Tire tread left: 100%; Tire tread right: 100% Rear axle 1: Tire size: 315/80R22.5; Twin tires; Differential lock; Max. axle load: 13000 kg; Axle brand: MICHELIN; Tire tread left inner: 70%; Tire tread left outer: 70%; Tire tread right inner: 70%; Tire tread right outer: 70%; Reduction: External planetary axles Rear axle 2: Tire size: 315/80R22.5; Twin tires; Differential lock; Max. axle load: 13000 kg; Axle brand: MICHELIN; Tire tread left inner: 70%; Tire tread left outer: 70%; Tire tread right inner: 70%; Tire tread right outer: 70%; Reduction: External planetary axles Weights Unladen weight: 17,880 kg Payload: 14,120 kg GVW: 32,000 kg Functional Dumper: Rear Condition Technical condition: very good Optical condition: very good Further information Please contact Olivier Geerts or Edwin Geerts for further information.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1995, Constant machine - combination station, dust brush - thickness measuring device - electronic segmented sanding pad MCS System Weber 32 mm - grooved steel calibrating roller - belt blow-off - vacuum conveyor belt. Sanding width: 1100 mm Drive: 15 kW Feed approx. 1.1 kW Height adjustment 0.25 kW Sanding belt dimensions: 1150 x 2500 mm Max. workpiece thickness: 150 mm Machine width: 1700 mm Machine length: 2000 mm Machine height: 2160 + 150 mm Machine weight: 1900 kg Constant working height: 850 mm Extraction connector: belt 180 mm / brush 120 mm Suction air volume: 0.74 m³/s Connected load: 23 kW Compressed air supply: 7 bar Feed speed: 3-15 m/min. Operating hours: 7000 h Location: Nattheim Fodpjx Twcpsfx Ap Degh

Condition: used, mileage: 2,60,000 km, power: 375 kW (509.86 HP), first registration: 08/2023, fuel type: diesel, overall weight: 18,000 kg, fuel: diesel, brakes: retarder, color: white, driver cabin: sleeper cab, gearing type: automatic, emission class: euro6, suspension: steel, number of seats: 2, Equipment: ABS, air conditioning, airbag, cruise control, navigation system, parking heater, power assisted steering, soot filter, D6G automatic climate control, NAV navigation system, A1H hydraulic auxiliary drive (HAD), B1Z ABS, switchable, B2A disc brakes on front and rear axles, B3H secondary water retarder, D1C driver's comfort suspension seat, D3B comfort lower bunk, D6M hot water auxiliary heater for cab, E2J circuit breaker, F1D L cab ClassicSpace, 2.30 m, tunnel 170 mm, F3B cab suspension, comfort, steel sprung, F6R air horns on cab roof, MAN001 light sensor, JF1 rain sensor, G0T Predictive Powertrain Control, J2K speakers, 2-way system, J3Z axle load measuring device, M5V high-performance engine brake, N6Z transmission oil cooler, Q4K fifth wheel coupling height, H = 185 mm, Q5Q standard fifth wheel coupling, Jost JSK 37C, R2K aluminum rims 9.00 x 22.5, Speedline, S1D Stability Control Assist (ESP), S1H lane keeping assist, S1I distance keeping assist, S1L driver attention assist, 513 traffic sign assist, 268 brake assist, S1R side guard assist, S3A airbag, driver, S5Z cruise control. We are available by phone Monday to Friday until 8:00 PM and Saturday until 4:00 PM! Furthermore:!! Leasing/financing and trade-in possible!! !! !! Fsdjz N S Nxspfx Ap Dsgh - Errors and prior sales excepted!! - All information without guarantee.

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2015, 12 x GALLUS S10 flexographic printing units 3 x rotary screen printing units Fedpfx Asz Nf Rpsp Dsgh 1 x cold foil unit 1 x lamination unit etc.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2022, functionality: fully functional, input voltage: 400 V, type of input current: three-phase, König Combiline KCL 6 / 800 mm with WK-RR and Donut station – 2022 Automatic König Combiline line for the production of small breads and shaped products, equipped with a Classic Rex Futura, a WK-RR shaping station, and an original König Donut station. Features: – Manufacturer: König – Model: Combiline KCL 6 – Year: 2022 – Working width: 800 mm – Dividing and rounding head: Classic Rex Futura – Type: Futura T5/4/3S – Drums: SK51 + SK65 – Weight range: 22 to 115 g – Operation in 3 / 4 / 5 rows – Maximum capacity: up to 7,500 pieces/hour – Control via touchscreen with programmable settings Line composition: – König Classic Rex Futura, divider-rounder – Pre-elongator – Proving chamber / pre-fermentation – Shaping station with WK-RR coiler – Moistening and seeding system – Automatic depositing system – Donut cutting / stamping station The WK-RR station allows, in particular, the processing of elongated and coiled products and significantly increases the versatility of the line. The Combiline enables the production of a wide range of products: – Round small breads Fgodpoz I U Tcefx Ap Dsh – Hamburger buns – Hot dog buns – Elongated small breads – Flattened products – Coiled products – Various shaped products – Donuts König Donut station: – Width: 800 mm – Bottom-side center cutting – Centering device for precise cutting – Automatic removal of cut dough – Stainless steel construction Condition: Line in very good condition and always well-maintained. It is currently still installed in a bakery in the UK and can be viewed before dismantling. Dismantling is scheduled soon, and the line will then be available in our warehouse in Belgium. Video available upon request.

Condition: repair required (used), Year of construction: 2004, Gallus TCS 250 Maximum material width 270 mm Printing units: Rotary screen printing unit, defective 4 offset printing units 1 hot foil stamping unit 1 flexographic printing unit, defective 1 blind embossing unit 1 die-cutting unit 1 unwinder The machine needs to be overhauled; it has control system issues. Fgodpfxsz Nyf Io Ap Djh Suitable as a source of spare parts. Disassembly and loading can be arranged.

Year of construction: 2010, condition: used, 2010 Votsch VCS 7310-5 H/S Heavy Duty, High-Performance Environmental Chamber With Acquisition Unit - Internal Dimensions W1,100 D1,320 x H2,080mm. S/No. 59566147420010 (2006). Fgedpfx Apjz N Hyrs Doh

Condition: excellent (used), mileage: 7,44,397 km, power: 427 kW (580.56 HP), first registration: 04/2017, fuel type: diesel, axle configuration: 6x2, wheelbase: 3,150 mm, fuel: diesel, brakes: retarder, color: red, driver cabin: sleeper cab, gearing type: automatic, number of gears: 12, emission class: euro6, suspension: air, Year of construction: 2017, Equipment: AdBlue, air conditioning, central locking, cruise control, electric window regulation, fridge, navigation system, retarder, seat heater, spoiler, - Adaptive Cruise Control - Aluminum fuel tank - DAB radio - Roof spoiler - Tilting hydraulics - Air conditioning - LED lighting - Leather interior - Leather upholstery - Air suspension - Rearview camera - Sleeper cabin - Side skirts - Lane keeping assist - Automatic heating system - Power Take-Off (PTO) Technical Information Number of cylinders: 8 Axle Configuration Brakes: Disc brakes Suspension: Air suspension Front axle: Steered; Tire tread depth left: 70%; Tire tread depth right: 70% Rear axle 1: Double tires; Tire tread depth left inner: 70%; Tire tread depth left outer: 70%; Tire tread depth right inner: 70%; Tire tread depth right outer: 70% Rear axle 2: Double tires; Lift axle; Tire tread depth left inner: 70%; Tire tread depth left outer: 70%; Tire tread depth right inner: 70%; Tire tread depth right outer: 70% Weights Unladen weight: 10,600 kg Payload: 17,400 kg GVWR: 28,000 kg Interior Fedpfx Apoznb Rds Dogh Upholstery: Leather Condition Technical condition: very good Optical condition: very good Curious about what we can do for you? Contact our sales team today! Our team of experienced specialists is available daily to assist you in finding the right vehicle. Would you like to see for yourself? Simply schedule a test drive and experience the vehicle firsthand. At KW-Automotive, you will find a wide selection. We always have at least 50 high-quality light commercial vehicles and trucks in stock. This way, you are guaranteed to find a vehicle that meets your requirements and budget. Every year, we support hundreds of satisfied customers – both in the Netherlands and abroad. Why KW-Automotive? Personal service Reliable vehicles Attractive prices Fast delivery, so you can get started right away Quick communication via telephone and WhatsApp Sales and delivery also to foreign countries For many years, we have been a reliable partner for our customers – and we are proud of that. Please note: All sales prices are plus preparation and delivery costs. Would you like to know more about a specific vehicle? Visit our website for detailed information, videos, and technical details. Do you need a quick answer? Just write to us via WhatsApp! We will send you further information, photos, or a video immediately. Job van Eldik

Condition: used, first registration: 09/2020, next inspection (TÜV): 06/2026, Equipment: ABS, | Schmitz SCB S3T, pallet box | Tires 385/65 22.5 | Perforated frame for securing the load | Tool box | Spare wheel holder | Schmitz axles, disc brakes | Good condition. Errors, input errors and prior sale excepted. Fodpfx Aezyraajp Degh

Condition: used, first registration: 02/2021, Equipment: ABS, | Schmitz SCB S3T | | Tires 385/65 22.5 | Perforated frame for securing the load | Toolbox | Spare wheel holder | Schmitz axles, disc brakes | Good condition. Subject to errors, typographical errors and prior sale. Fodpfxozyrago Ap Djgh

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 1996, x-travel 800 mm y-travel 340 mm Fgodpez Dbzxjfx Ap Djh z-travel 460 mm Control Fanuc weight of the machine ca. 3,5 t

Condition: new, Siemens SIMOTICS-L primary part 1FN3100-1WC00-0BA3, 3-phase synchronous motor SN: YF L7618 4379 01 002, unused, in sealed original packaging, 100% functional, scope of delivery as shown in photos. Fgjdpoz Acqbofx Ap Djh

Condition: ready for operation (used), Simens 6RA8025-6GS22-0AA0 SINAMICS DCM DC-Converter SN: Q6H22450101, used, good condition, 100% functional, scope of delivery as per photos Fjdpfx Aoz Acyiep Djgh

Condition: ready for operation (used), Stöber FDS5055/L Posidrive servo drive HW 11 SW 5.3C, serial number: 8702144, used, in good condition, 100% fully functional, scope of delivery as shown in the photos. Fedpsz Ac I Hofx Ap Degh

Condition: ready for operation (used), Trumpf 1255448 Industrial PC / Industrie PC SW V4.2 HW Index A3 SN: 2918, used, in good condition, 100% fully functional, delivery as shown in photos Fodpfxsz Adbns Ap Degh

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 1997, PROD. KAESER TYPE CS91 S/N 7601345 YEAR 1997 POWER (kW) 55 CAPACITY (m3/min) 9.55 PRESSURE (bar) 7.5 HOURS (RUNNING/TOTAL) 14215 / 71583 FREQUENCY CONVERTER no Fgedpfez D Ud Hex Ap Dsh BUILT-IN DRYER no HEAT EXCHANGER no COOLED BY (AIR/WATER) air ON-BOARD TANK no DOCUMENTS no NEW/USED USED

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2014, Technical specifications: Data format: TIFF or LEN Maximum supported plate size: 1200 × 900 × 1.14 mm Imaging resolution: 2000–4000 ppi Optics: R Optics Maximum screen ruling: 200 lpi Tonal range: 1–99% Optics configuration: Optics 15 Productivity: 1.5 m²/h Dimensions & Weight: Width: 2090 mm Depth: 1168 mm Height: 1223 mm Weight: 1500 kg Electrical Data: Power supply: 1/N/PE, 220–240 V AC Frequency: 50/60 Hz Power consumption: 2.6 kW Building fuse: 16 A Fgjdpfxez Erivj Ap Doh Residual current protection: >30 mA Grounding required Included Equipment: • Exhaust system • Vacuum pump • Compressor • Monitor • Keyboard • Mouse • Built-in software

Condition: used, boneless meat, sausage, cheese, or fish 400V, 50 Hz/3/N/PE 32A approx. 10 kW compressed air connection values: min. pressure 4 bar cutting system sickle blade: max. speed at blade head WSK 2,000 min-1 Drive: feed, cup, portioning unit CCU: servo motors Drive power transmission: toothed belts Feed power transmission: precision ball screw drive Cutting thickness: 0.1 to 100 mm (depending on product and cutting capacity) product passage width: adjustable up to max. 380 mm product passage height: adjustable from 125 to max. 180 mm (optionally up to 200 mm) programming: dialogue via touch screen program memory locations: 100 2 sickle blades total dimensions (L x W x H): ± 3,000 x 1,600 x 2,700 mm + "Wibotec" single-pan weighing scale Type Continuous checkweigher 200 - Web 99T 355 -365 Web Module Length: approx. 485 mm Width: approx. 535 mm Weight: approx. 150 kg Power transmission of the drives: gears 9 g - 3750 g + Monosorting rocker Type CCR Length: approx. 450 mm Width: approx. 380 mm Weight: 250 kg Drive power transmission: toothed belts Motor type: asynchronous motors or servo drives, depending on the slicer type + Conveyor belt Type CCE total dimensions (L x W x H): ± 4,100 x 960 x 1,500 mm drive power transmission: toothed belts motor type: asynchronous motors or servo drives Fodpfx Apez D Aqbs Dogh

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 2171, mileage: 8,86,000 km, power: 390 kW (530.25 HP), first registration: 04/2018, fuel type: diesel, empty load weight: 8,647 kg, overall weight: 19,500 kg, tire size: 315/80/22.5, tire condition: 60 %, axle configuration: 4x2, wheelbase: 3,800 mm, fuel: diesel, brakes: intarder, color: yellow, driver cabin: sleeper cab, gearing type: automatic, emission class: euro6, suspension: steel-air, number of beds: 2, Year of construction: 2018, Equipment: ABS, AdBlue, EBS, USB port, additional headlights, air conditioning, airbag, car registration, central locking, cruise control, differential lock, electric window regulation, electronic stability program (ESP), fog lights, fridge, hill-start assist, lane keeping assist, low noise, navigation system, non-smoking vehicle, onboard computer, parking air conditioner, parking heater, power assisted steering, power mirror, retarder, seat heater, second fuel tank, soot filter, spoiler, tachograph, tire pressure monitoring, traction control, Standard tractor unit with Super Space Cab sleeper and 2 beds, stationary air conditioning, refrigerator, TV set, adaptive cruise control, lane keeping assist, hill start assist, etc., sky lights, AEBS, 2 fuel tanks = 1,275 litres, lamp bar, Alcoa aluminium rims, air horn, frame panelling, German vehicle from first owner. Sale only to businesses and with exclusion of any warranty. We deliver to any German seaport. Fgodpfey Hfqnjx Ap Djh

Condition: used, maximum load weight: 32,408 kg, overall weight: 39,000 kg, axle configuration: 3 axles, first registration: 08/2019, next inspection (TÜV): 04/2027, loading space width: 2,450 mm, loading space height: 2,700 mm, Equipment: ABS, Due to the countless phishing and spam emails, email inquiries can only be processed if you provide your valid telephone number! Unfortunately, we cannot process email inquiries without a telephone number! We ask for your understanding. For telephone inquiries and WhatsApp, please contact us regarding: * SCHMITZ POWER CURTAIN * LASI DIN EN 12642 Code XL + Daimler 9.5 + Beverages + Tires * Anti-vandalism tarpaulin * Lift axle * Pallet box * Schmitz ROTOS axles with disc brakes * Edscha convertible roof * Sliding tarpaulin, left + right Fgodpfx Apjz E Uc Eo Djh * Air suspension with lifting/lowering system * Unladen weight: approx. 6,590 kg * Tires: 385/65 R 22.5 * Tread depth: 10/4, 9/15, 0/6 mm Subject to errors and prior sale.

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, Equipment: CE marking, type plate available, Used Colortronic material dosing system with control cabinet, 5x CSK 5 vacuum receivers, small mixer unit, 30 pieces of aluminium pipes – 6 m length, diameter 50 mm, bends made of stainless steel, mixing station. Fsdpfx Apoy Smg Io Djgh

Condition: used, mileage: 1,28,707 km, power: 310 kW (421.48 HP), first registration: 10/2019, fuel type: diesel, overall weight: 22,000 kg, axle configuration: 2 axles, next inspection (TÜV): 10/2028, color: orange, gearing type: automatic, emission class: euro6, Year of construction: 2019, Equipment: ABS, air conditioning, all wheel drive, electronic stability program (ESP), Internal vehicle number: G400234 Available immediately at our yard in Kaufungen. For more information, please contact: * Luis Lucena * Viktoria Sologubova Mercedes-Benz Arocs 2042 4x4 MEILLER Tipper | Winter Service | Euro 6d For sale: a used Mercedes-Benz Arocs 2042 4x4 with a MEILLER tipper body, manufactured in 2019. The vehicle features a 421 hp diesel engine, automatic transmission, permanent all-wheel drive, and tipping hydraulics. Thanks to its robust 4x4 configuration and winter service equipment, this vehicle is ideal for municipal operations, construction site use, and winter road maintenance. Technical specifications: * Manufacturer/Model: Mercedes-Benz Arocs 2042 * Vehicle Type: Tipper/Winter Service Vehicle * Body: MEILLER Tipper Body * First Registration: 10/2019 * Year of Manufacture: 2019 * Mileage: 128,707 km * Power: 310 kW (421 hp) * Engine Displacement: 12,809 cm³ * Cylinders: 6 * Fuel: Diesel * Transmission: Automatic * Emission Standard: Euro 6d * Environmental Badge: 4 (Green) * Axles: 2 * Wheel Arrangement: 4x4 * Drive: All-Wheel Drive * Hydraulic System: Tipping Hydraulics * Permissible Gross Weight: 22,000 kg * Unladen Weight: 10,775 kg * Payload: 11,225 kg * Automatic Climate Control * ABS * ESP * Fixed Trailer Coupling * Color: Orange * TÜV (Technical Inspection): New * Vehicle Number: G400234 * Condition: Used * German Vehicle Inspection is possible by prior appointment. Further information, photos, and videos are available upon request. Errors, changes, and prior sale are subject to change. Financing example: * Internal Number: G400234 * Purchase Price: €95,900.00 * Down Payment: 10% * Term: 60 months * Monthly Rate: €1,490.02 * Residual Value: €16,380.00 If you are interested in this offer or would like to customize it to your needs, please contact Mr. Enchev. We look forward to your call. Errors and omissions excepted. We will gladly accept your used vehicle in part exchange. Fgjdozr Ayzspfx Ap Doh Financing is available directly with us.

Condition: used, mileage: 25,900 km, power: 375 kW (509.86 HP), first registration: 01/2023, fuel type: diesel, overall weight: 32,000 kg, axle configuration: > 3 axles, brakes: retarder, gearing type: automatic, Year of construction: 2023, Equipment: ABS, air conditioning, electronic stability program (ESP), soot filter, * Mercedes Benz Arocs 3251 suction excavator * 2 units in stock * First registration: 01-2023 * Suction excavator MTS Dino 12 * Stainless steel cladding Fodpfoz I Ic Djx Ap Degh * Hydrostatic drive for suction, driving, and steering * Power boom EVO Power ARM Gen2 * 2 x turbine * Turbine operating hours: 1,058 h * Compressor operating hours: 943 h * DINO 12m³ container * Stainless steel lining, complete * Power boom EVO-POWER ARM GEN2 * Rotating suction pipe system IKE/PERFOR * Hydrostat-RPM15 * Full cladding DESIGN * High-pressure water system 30 l/min * Biodegradable hydraulic oil * Aluminum fenders * Storage box made of stainless steel on the frame * Container with 2 pneumatic vibrators * Ladder under the hose rack * Light package I: 3 LED lights on the vehicle frame * Light package II: 2 LED lights on the central joint of the power boom * Light package III: LED light strips in the toolbox * Light package IV: Cable reel * Light package VIII: Light bar on the rear * 4 flashing beacons (switchable on the rear) * Anti-slip coating on the lid * Ball-head trailer coupling 3.5t * More pictures and videos via WhatsApp * Information without guarantee and subject to prior sale.

Condition: used, mileage: 2,32,000 km, power: 235 kW (319.51 HP), first registration: 10/2015, fuel type: diesel, overall weight: 26,000 kg, axle configuration: 3 axles, color: white, gearing type: automatic, emission class: euro6, loading space length: 5,300 mm, Equipment: ABS, air conditioning, crane, electronic stability program (ESP), soot filter, Int. No.: 1067 Fgodezlvqgspfx Ap Djh Top-maintained Arocs 2532 with Hardox tipper body / Bordmatik on the left / cable drum (3-way tipper) with FASSI crane * Mercedes Benz * Arocs 2532 * 6x2 * Air-air suspension * Permissible weight: 26,000 kg * Cable drum * Hardox tipper body with BORDMATIK on the left, pivoting flap, and portal doors at the rear * CRANE FASSI 165 A 2.22 * 2x hydraulic extension * 2x fully hydraulic outriggers * 5th and 6th control circuits * Grab available at an extra charge * Ground and elevated stand control * Differential lock * Central locking * 3-seater * Radio * Air conditioning * EURO 6 * Green emissions sticker * Very good condition * 1st owner * VAT can be shown!!! Trade-in possible Financing from 1.99% Errors and prior sale excepted! The information in this advertisement is a non-binding description and does not constitute guaranteed characteristics. The seller assumes no liability for typographical and data transmission errors. Listed equipment must be checked separately. All information in the advertisements is non-binding! Delivery throughout Germany upon request Opening hours: Monday to Thursday from 9:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. Friday from 9:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. and by appointment!!!