Used Danibrum Double Hydraulic Frame Press Danibrum for sale (39,393)

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2025, functionality: fully functional, power: 3 kW (4.08 HP), input voltage: 400 V, input frequency: 50 Hz, pressing force: 2 t, stroke length: 100 mm, total length: 4,120 mm, total width: 2,300 mm, total height: 2,650 mm, overall weight: 2,000 kg, working width: 2,000 mm, feed length X-axis: 2,000 mm, feed length Y-axis: 3,000 mm, feed length Z-axis: 180 mm, height adjustment type: mechanical, pressure plate depth: 120 mm, warranty duration: 12 months, working height: 180 mm, Double Hydraulic Frame Press – Industrial Solution for Precise and Efficient Assembly Designed for demanding production environments, this double hydraulic frame press delivers high levels of adaptability and structural integrity, making it ideal for assembling wooden frames – from windows and doors to custom furniture components of various shapes and sizes. Maximum Flexibility for a Wide Range of Applications Thanks to its intelligent engineering and adjustable clamping systems, the press quickly adapts to frames of different thicknesses and geometries without requiring complex setups or manual intervention. Changeovers between workpieces are fast and effortless, significantly increasing production efficiency. Industrial-Grade Construction for Heavy-Duty Use The press frame is built from high-quality structural steel, engineered for enhanced rigidity and operational stability under heavy loads. The side beams are machined from a single solid piece, eliminating potential weak points caused by joints or welds. Strategically placed reinforcements minimize torsional deformation during pressing, ensuring the precise alignment and perpendicularity of all frame components. This robust design not only enhances operational safety but also extends the lifespan of the equipment, even under continuous industrial use. Efficient Hydraulic Pressing with Accurate Force Control The system integrates 10 high-efficiency hydraulic cylinders (6 vertical, 4 horizontal) that apply uniform and controlled pressure across the entire surface of the frame. This ensures consistent joint compression and even adhesive distribution, eliminating gaps or weak spots. Additionally, three frontal pressing systems guarantee correct contact between the workpiece and the pressing tables, optimizing positioning prior to clamping. Iedpfxjwgybue Alxeif Modular pressing pistons with quick-lock mechanisms can be easily repositioned to suit the size and shape of the frame, enabling targeted pressure exactly where needed. This is especially beneficial for complex geometries or structurally sensitive zones. Simplified Operation via Fully Automated Hydraulic System Equipped with a high-capacity hydraulic pump, the press operates autonomously without requiring external pressure sources. Pressing functions and pressure adjustments are activated via intuitive electric controls, eliminating physical strain on the operator. Each work zone is equipped with an independent foot pedal, allowing localized operation for increased flexibility. The hydraulic pump is designed to maintain stable and consistent pressure throughout the pressing cycle, ensuring uniform results from start to finish. Engineered for High-Performance Industrial Production This double frame press excels through: large-scale processing capacity, adaptability to various frame types and materials, efficient and reliable operation. It is the perfect solution for companies operating in heavy-duty production environments, providing a genuine competitive edge in assembly operations, both in terms of speed and precision. Technical support available in english - romanian - german.

Year of construction: 2003, condition: used, frame hydraulic press WEGOMA Workspace: width 3600 mm height 2500 mm the amount of lateral hydraulic cylinders 3 pieces top two pieces beam mechanically Move Mechanical compression setting Iisdpfx Ascmat Uelxsf more photos an questions

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2025, H-FRAME DOUBLE-ACTING HYDRAULIC PRESS MODEL HDD 400 / 400 TON Ram Cylinder Capacity (ton): 400 ton Min. Working Pressure (bar): 30 bar Max. Working Pressure (bar): 250 bar Main Cylinder Diameter: Ø 420 mm * 1 pc Auxiliary Cylinder Diameter: Ø100*60 mm * 2 pcs Table Size (mm): 1500 x 1200 mm Stroke (mm): 1000 mm Daylight (mm): 1400 mm Advance Speed (mm/sec): 1400 mm/sec Return Speed (mm/sec): 200 mm/sec Working Speed (mm/sec): 2–12 mm/sec Cushion Capacity (ton): 200 ton Cushion Stroke (mm): 400 mm Ejector Force (ton): 10 ton Ejector Stroke (mm): 300 mm Motor (kW): 37 kW Pump (cc): 100 cc Overall Dimensions (LxWxH): 2550 x 3500 x 6100 mm Ijdpjwbtn Refx Alxjif Weight (kg): Approx. 26,000 kg

Condition: new, functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2026, power: 3 kW (4.08 HP), input voltage: 400 V, input current: 6 A, input frequency: 50 Hz, reverse speed: 14 mm/s, total length: 1,150 mm, total width: 850 mm, total height: 1,800 mm, Special Offer – 5% Discount Available! Hydraulic C-Frame Press – 250 kN (25.5 Tons) The Hydraulic C-Frame Press is a professional industrial machine designed for precise pressing, straightening, bending, assembling and forming operations. Its open C-frame construction provides excellent access to the working area, allowing convenient machining of larger workpieces and easy material handling from multiple sides. The rigid welded steel frame ensures maximum stability, durability and long service life. The precision hydraulic system provides smooth control of both pressing force and ram speed, delivering reliable performance and high machining accuracy. This versatile press is suitable for industrial production, maintenance departments, tool rooms, metalworking workshops and automotive applications. Main Features * Pressing force of 250 kN (approx. 25.5 tons) * Open C-frame design * Heavy-duty welded steel construction * Precise hydraulic control * Smooth ram movement * Excellent access to the working area * Suitable for industrial and workshop applications * CE certified Technical Specifications * Pressing force: 250 kN (approx. 25.5 tons) * Maximum hydraulic pressure: 25 MPa * Maximum opening: 500 mm * Ram stroke: 200 mm Iiodpfx Alsyr Ek Rexof * Table dimensions: 500 × 400 mm * Throat depth: 200 mm * Downward speed: 10 mm/s * Return speed: 14 mm/s * Motor power: 3 kW * Packed dimensions (L × W × H): 1150 × 850 × 1800 mm Applications * Pressing * Bending * Straightening * Assembly operations * Metal forming * Metalworking workshops * Automotive industry * Tool rooms * Industrial manufacturing Transport and Delivery The machine is supplied brand new and includes a 12-month warranty, warranty service and professional after-sales support. We provide professional transport throughout Europe using specialized machinery logistics. Every machine is securely loaded, protected during transport and delivered directly to the customer's premises. We also assist with export documentation and international shipping arrangements. Worldwide shipping is available upon request. About Metal Technics Polska Metal Technics Polska is a manufacturer and distributor of professional metalworking machinery. We supply high-quality machines throughout Europe and provide expert technical advice, spare parts and comprehensive after-sales support. Contact us today for pricing, delivery times, machine availability, additional photos, videos or a personalized quotation.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1999, functionality: fully functional, total length: 8,120 mm, total height: 2,300 mm, Vertical Hydraulic Press FAMAD HSKG 6m – Number of loading zones: 3 Dimensions of a single loading zone: – Loading height: 1140 mm – Length of battens in one zone: 1530 mm – Maximum batten width: 150 mm – Maximum length of glued elements: 3120 mm – Installed power: 3 kW – Number of cylinders per zone: - 3 pcs 50x100 mm Iiodjyuylnjpfx Alxjf - 3 pcs 80x100 mm – External dimensions (L x W x H): 8120x1000x2300 mm – Machine weight: 4800 kg

Condition: good (used), WF HHP 625 – Horizontal Press Year: 2006 Manufacturer: WF Maschinenbau u. Blechformtechnik GmbH & Co KG Germany Machine Model: WF HHP 625 Machine Type: Horizontal Hydraulic Press Technical Specifications: Maximum workpiece diameter: 625 mm Minimum workpiece diameter: 350 mm Maximum workpiece length: 325 mm Maximum press stroke: 750 mm Maximum press force: 2000 kN Siemens 840D control system Parker hydraulic components Hydraulic oil tank capacity: approx. 800 liters Required cooling water for hydraulic system: approx. 1000 l/h Cooling water inlet temperature: max. 25°C Air supply connection: 6 bar / ½” Ambient operating temperature: 10°C – 40°C Hydraulic Equipment: Main Hydraulic Motor: Manufacturer: Blumenbecker Type: 14BG 207-4AA 200L Power: 30 kW Voltage: 400V / 50Hz Speed: 1465 rpm Secondary Hydraulic Motor: Manufacturer: Blumenbecker Type: 7AA 132 S-4 Power: 5.5 kW Voltage: 400V / 50Hz Speed: 1450 rpm Iedszb Il Njpfx Alxjif Hydraulic Pump: Manufacturer: Parker Type: PV080R1K1T1NSLD Internal Gear Pump: Manufacturer: Denison / Parker Type: T6CMYR20-1-R_00C1 Flow rate: 93 l/min at 1450 rpm Central Lubrication Unit: Manufacturer: Vogel Type: MFE5-BW7+299 Oil Spray Unit: Manufacturer: Vogel Type: MFE5-BW7+299 Machine Dimensions (Transport Position): Width: approx. 2600 mm Length: approx. 5800 mm Height: approx. 2400 mm Weight: approx. 20,000 kg Additional Information: Hydraulic horizontal press with automated loading/unloading preparation Robot loading interface prepared (robot not included) Transport and lifting drawings available Original manuals and technical documentation included

Year of construction: 1995, condition: used, machine/vehicle number: 211045 H110, Response time: 133 ms, clamping force: 2,500 kN, control unit, two-hand operation, upstream light barrier, separate control cabinet, 1 workbench with a Garant two-jaw vise mounted on it, storage shelf. Isdpfx Alezqzcrexsif

Condition: used, Industrial Hydraulic Press, Hydraulic press, 100t press, C-frame hydraulic press, HYDRAP PRESSEN HPS ZB 100, Used machine Manufacturer: HYDRAP PRESSEN GmbH (Plüderhausen, Germany) – Premium manufacturer of industrial press machinery Isdpfx Ajzk Amrslxeif Type: HPS ZB 100 Serial number (Fabrik-Nr.): 6535 Year of manufacture (Baujahr): 1991 Weight: 14 700 kg Condition: Used, heavy-duty industrial design Technical and operating parameters: Permissible load / Pressing force (Zul. Belastg.): 1000 kN (approx. 100 tons capacity) Effective stroke (Nutzhub): 300 mm Drive type (Antriebsart): Hydraulic (HYDR.) Supply voltage (Spannung): 380 V Frequency (Frequenz): 50 Hz Type of current (Stromart): D (Three-phase AC / Delta configuration) Drive power (Antr.-Leistg.): 45 kW Rated current (Nennstrom): 90 A Oil viscosity (Öl-Viskos.): HLP 46 Oil capacity (Ölmenge): 780 liters Stopping distance (Nachlaufweg): 34 mm Stopping time (Nachlaufzeit): 112 ms Safety distance (Sicherheitsabstand): 192 mm

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 1982, Press force: max. 200 kN Safety distance: 100mm Post-travel: max. 10 mm Iedpozvfp Hjfx Alxjif Motor power: 3 kW

Condition: new, functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2026, power: 5.5 kW (7.48 HP), input voltage: 400 V, input current: 11 A, input frequency: 50 Hz, reverse speed: 25 mm/s, Special Offer – 5% Discount Available! Hydraulic C-Frame Press – 1000 kN (102 Tons) The Hydraulic C-Frame Press is a professional industrial machine designed for demanding pressing, straightening, bending, assembling and forming operations. Its open C-frame construction provides excellent access to the working area, making it easy to machine larger workpieces and handle materials from multiple sides. The rigid welded steel frame ensures maximum stability, durability and long service life. The precision hydraulic system provides smooth control of both pressing force and ram speed, ensuring reliable performance and high machining accuracy. This versatile press is suitable for industrial production, maintenance departments, tool rooms, metalworking workshops and automotive applications. Main Features * Pressing force of 1000 kN (approx. 102 tons) * Open C-frame design * Heavy-duty welded steel construction * Precise hydraulic control * Smooth ram movement * Excellent access to the working area Ijdeyrr Rkjpfx Alxsif * Suitable for industrial and workshop applications * CE certified Technical Specifications * Pressing force: 1000 kN (approx. 102 tons) * Maximum hydraulic pressure: 25 MPa * Maximum opening: 600 mm * Ram stroke: 300 mm * Table dimensions: 700 × 500 mm * Throat depth: 250 mm * Downward speed: 11 mm/s * Return speed: 25 mm/s * Motor power: 5.5 kW Applications * Pressing * Bending * Straightening * Assembly operations * Metal forming * Metalworking workshops * Automotive industry * Tool rooms * Industrial manufacturing Transport and Delivery The machine is supplied brand new and includes a 12-month warranty, warranty service and professional after-sales support. We provide professional transport throughout Europe using specialized machinery logistics. Every machine is securely loaded, protected during transport and delivered directly to the customer's premises. We also assist with export documentation and international shipping arrangements. Worldwide shipping is available upon request. About Metal Technics Polska Metal Technics Polska is a manufacturer and distributor of professional metalworking machinery. We supply high-quality machines throughout Europe and provide expert technical advice, spare parts and comprehensive after-sales support. Contact us today for pricing, delivery times, machine availability, additional photos, videos or a personalized quotation.

Condition: ready for operation (used), A completely renewed and overhauled Oevermann press is available. Press force: 150t, reach: 400mm, stroke: 400mm, installation height: 600mm, table dimensions X/Y: 1200mm/710mm, drive power: 37kW, weight: approx. 9500kg. The following areas have been renewed and overhauled: hydraulics, components, tank, lines and safety devices. The control system has been completely newly installed. Documentation available. An on-site inspection is possible. Iijdpfx Aloyxgr Rjxof

Year of construction: 1981, condition: ready for operation (used), Press force: 650kN, Stroke: 150mm, Pressure piston diameter: 190mm, Column spacing X/Y: 950mm/460mm, Installation height: 500mm, Table dimensions X/Y: 900mm/870mm, max. stroke: 150mm, Operating pressure: 200bar, Machine dimensions X/Y/Z: approx. 1500mm/1750mm/2400mm, Weight: approx. 3000kg. Documentation available. An on site inspection is possible. Iiedpfsyq R D Hox Alxof

Condition: new, functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2026, machine/vehicle number: PRASA HYDRAULICZNA TYPU C HPW 50 50 TON, power: 4 kW (5.44 HP), input voltage: 400 V, input current: 8 A, input frequency: 50 Hz, reverse speed: 18 mm/s, pressing force: 51 t, pressing speed: 18 mm/s, stroke length: 200 mm, table length: 500 mm, table width: 400 mm, Equipment: documentation/manual, Special Offer – 5% Discount Available! Hydraulic C-Frame Press The Hydraulic C-Frame Press is a professional industrial machine designed for precision pressing, bending, straightening, assembling and forming operations. Its open C-frame design provides excellent access to the working area, making it easy to handle larger workpieces and operate from multiple sides. The robust welded steel frame ensures outstanding rigidity, durability and reliable performance, while the hydraulic system provides smooth, accurate control of pressing force and ram movement. Suitable for continuous industrial use, this press is ideal for production facilities, maintenance departments and metalworking workshops. Main Features * High pressing force * Open C-frame design * Heavy-duty welded steel construction * Precise hydraulic control * Smooth ram movement * Easy access to the working area * Reliable industrial performance * CE certified Technical Specifications * Pressing force: 500 kN (approx. 51 t) * Maximum hydraulic pressure: 25 MPa * Maximum opening: 500 mm * Stroke: 200 mm * Table dimensions: 500 × 400 mm Iiedoyr D R Njpfx Alxof * Throat depth: 200 mm * Downward speed: 19 mm/s * Return speed: 18 mm/s * Motor power: 4 kW Applications * Press fitting * Bending * Straightening * Assembly operations * Forming * Metalworking workshops * Automotive industry * Tool rooms * Industrial manufacturing Transport and Delivery The machine is supplied brand new and includes a 12-month warranty, warranty service and professional after-sales support. We provide professional transport throughout Europe using specialized heavy machinery logistics. Every machine is securely loaded, protected during transport and delivered directly to the customer's premises. We also assist with export documentation and international shipping arrangements. Worldwide shipping is available upon request. About Metal Technics Polska Metal Technics Polska is a manufacturer and distributor of professional metalworking machinery. We supply high-quality machines throughout Europe and provide expert technical advice, spare parts and comprehensive after-sales support. Contact us today for pricing, delivery times, machine availability, additional photos, videos or a personalized quotation.

Year of construction: 1991, condition: ready for operation (used), Pressing force: 3200kN, stroke: 700mm, table dimensions: 2500x1300mm, weight: 63t, with documentation. Iedpfxslc N R Ds Alxoif

Condition: used, Double-column Hydraulic Press SCHÖN Type SH 25 Machine No. 2440 Year of manufacture: 1979 Press force: 25 tons Column spacing: 630 mm Lateral passage between columns: 120 mm Table area: 580 x 320 mm Ram area: 360 x 220 mm Clamping pin hole: Ø 40 mm Maximum ram stroke: 100 mm Maximum installation height: 270 mm Table height above floor: 900 mm Motor power: 7.5 kW Power supply: 380 Volt, 50 Hz - Main cylinder overhauled in 2025 - SICK LUV 206 safety light curtain - Two-hand control - Stroke counter - Rapid stroke and working stroke - Stroke limitation dependent on pressure or position - Mechanically adjustable fixed stop - Press force regulation - Press time extension 1–10 s (pressure holding time) - No operating manual and no wiring diagrams Required space (L x W x H): 1450 x 1100 x 2200 mm Weight: 1200 kg Iisdpfx Asyz Dr Tjlxof In good condition

Condition: used, Machines for export from company closure Stock No. 62506 = RAPID Type DGL 5000 / 500 double mitre saw = Weight approx. 1,200 kg = Special price EUR 1,800 Stock No. 54183 = MÜLLER hydraulic press 10 ton, without hydraulic pump = Weight approx. 1,200 kg = Special price EUR 1,000 Stock No. 57780 = MÜLLER hydraulic press Type HEP 40 = Weight approx. 2,200 kg = Special price EUR 1,900 Hydraulic press – separate hydraulic power unit = Weight approx. 3,000 kg Stock No. 60507 = WEBO drill with 4 spindles = Weight approx. 1,900 kg = EUR 1,600 Stock No. 57592 = ALZMETALL drill with 2 spindles = Weight approx. 1,700 kg = EUR 1,200 Stock No. 60699 = WEBO column-type drill MK5 = Weight 1,600 kg = Special price EUR 1,600 Stock No. 60177 = WEBO radial drilling machine Type R4bR = Weight approx. 2,800 kg = Special price EUR 1,900 Stock No. 57432 = GILDEMEISTER Type GD 160 = Weight approx. 4,000 kg = Special price EUR 1,900 --- Many more machines in stock, available for immediate export. For example: 10 units welding machines, CLOOS, ESS etc. 2x HITACHI SEIKI CNC lathes Iijdpjy Erzdofx Alxof

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 1985, functionality: fully functional, The machine is fully operational and in good condition. Working dimensions: 3200 x 2200 mm Iiodpfxsxmr Rxs Alxjf Dimension adjustment is electrically controlled from the control panel. Powered by a hydraulic unit.

Year of construction: 1992, condition: ready for operation (used), Max. ram force: 1600kN, length: 3170mm, width: 2500mm, height: 5080mm, weight: 23t, with documentation. Ijdpfxolc N Ryo Alxeif

Condition: like new (used), Year of construction: 1991, Floor space: 1 m x 0.70 m x H 2 meters. Gooseneck 250. Control panel on the left. Machine in very good condition – used very little. Table 400x360. Drawer with opening. Iisdpeyz Dxasfx Alxjf

Year of construction: 2006, condition: used, machine/vehicle number: 10510, Drive power: 138 kW, clamping force: 4,500 kN, machine weight: approx. 74,000 kg, max. tool weight: 7,500 kg, tool dimensions: approx. 2,150 x 1,300 mm, stroke: approx. 61 mm, SIEMENS SIMATIC C MULTI PANEL control, two-hand operation, upstream light curtain, separate RITTAL control panel system, cooling system, including accessories: 1 workbench, 1 sheet metal cabinet, contents: various hand tools. Ijdezqzd Aspfx Alxoif

Condition: used, Single-column hydraulic press, DUNKES Type HZT 2.5 Machine No. H94-2558, Year of manufacture 1994 Clamping force 2.5 tons Overhang 180 mm Table surface 420 x 300 mm Through-hole in the table 60 x 185 mm Ram surface Ø 40 mm Dowel hole for clamping Ø 20 mm Ram stroke 160 mm Maximum installation height 250 mm Rapid traverse downward 65 mm/sec Rapid traverse upward 160 mm/sec Working speed 8.3 mm/sec Table height above floor 950 mm Hydraulic operating pressure 135 bar Iedpfoh Uhqysx Alxeif Hydraulic tank capacity approx. 100 liters Drive power 1.5 kW Power connection 400 volts, 50 Hz - Installation height can be increased by shortening the piston rod by 80 mm - Pressure and stroke limitation - 2-hand operation on the machine - Stroke counter - Safe press control with 2 monitored hydraulic valves - UVV 11.064 VGB 7.n.5.2 (for manual insertion operations) - 32047 operating hours recorded - Electrical wiring diagram and hydraulic diagram available Space requirement L x W x H 1100 x 980 x 1950 mm Weight 700 kg Very good condition

Year of construction: 1961, condition: ready for operation (used), A hydraulic single-column C-frame press Müller is available. Press force: 63t, stroke: 560mm, throat depth: 325mm, installation height: 700mm, table dimensions X/Y: 640mm/640mm, ram surface: 560mm/560mm, machine dimensions X/Y/Z: approx. 2000mm/1200mm/3100mm, weight: approx. 7500kg. The machine has a motor malfunction. An on-site inspection is possible. Iedpfx Aley Rtg Eoxoif

Condition: used, Double-column hydraulic press SCHÖN Type SH 25 Machine no.: 4453 Year of manufacture: 1999 Pressing force: 25 tons Column width: 500 mm Lateral column clearance: 120 mm Table surface: 440 x 320 mm Table opening: Ø 175 mm Ram surface: 360 x 220 mm Clamping pin bore: Ø 40 mm Max. ram stroke: 100 mm Max. installation height: 270 mm Table height above floor: 900 mm Motor power: 7.5 kW Connection voltage: 380 V, 50 Hz Equipment: - Safety light curtain SICK, type FGS 300-11 - Two-hand operation - Stroke counter - Rapid and working stroke - Stroke limitation dependent on pressure or position - Mechanically adjustable fixed stop - Pressing force regulation - Adjustable pressing time 1–10 s (pressure holding time) - Adjustable return stroke speed - Blow-off device electrically pre-wired, without air valve Iijdpjw A Amrjfx Alxjf - Manual hydraulic tool safety, adjustable via handwheel Dimensions (L x W x H): 1300 x 1200 x 2200 mm Weight: approx. 1200 kg Good condition

Condition: used, Hydraulic punching machine, punching frame for use with JOKA HP-S punching units Hydraulic hole punching machine, hydraulic press for punching tools Year of manufacture approx. 1995 Pressure capacity: 5 tons Stroke: 155 mm Stroke length: approx. 20 mm Punching unit width: max. 54 mm Punching unit height: max. 220 mm Die holder: Ø 48 mm Motor power: 1.5 kW Mains connection: 230 volts, 50 Hz Iijdpfx Aeltrmuslxof - for universal use with JOKA SW 20 or SWD 20 punching units - The outreach of the punching units can be larger and can be pushed back - Stroke activation via electric two-hand operation - Hydraulic unit HAWE, type HCW 4 / 2.5-B 1/400-1 - mounted on a frame base, mobile Space requirement L x W x H: 1100 x 800 x 1450 mm Weight: approx. 200 kg Good condition

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2019, machine/vehicle number: DF0303, pressing force: 160 t, table length: 550 mm, table width: 500 mm, working height: 700 mm, pressure:160 t distance between columns:700 mm stroke:400 mm Return Capacity:16 t Engine Output:15 kW Travel:400 mm :600 mm Ram plate:700 x 600 mm table height over floor:850 mm Table size:700 x 600 mm speed of forward flow:10 mm/sec Pressing speed:10 mm/sec :10 mm/sec Oil cooling (electric):1,5 kW (max) Oil Tank Capacity:300 l weight of the machine ca.:4,2 t dimensions:950 x 2440 x 2400 m ejector:30 x 30 mm ejector stroke:150 mm pressure of ejector:15 t ejector speed:25 mm/sec no. of ejector pins:1 Stück Iijdpfxsfxyh Ro Alxjf heating plates :550 x 500 mm :6800 ? :2400 ? :1200 ? :1200 ?