Used S/S Urschel L-A Dicer for sale (1,03,973)

Condition: like new (used), The Urschel Model L-A is ideal for dicing chicken, turkey and duck meat, clams, lobster, shrimp, oysters, crab, celery, fresh or brined peppers, mushrooms and citrus peels, cherries, citron, dried plums, candied fruit, apples, parsley. Njdpfeyufl Hsx Alhjlc • Maximum inlet thickness or diameter should not exceed 1/2'' (12.7 mm). • Provides continuous operation for uninterrupted production. • Equipped with stainless steel contact parts. * Production may vary depending on cut size and product.

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2026, NEW MACHINES The Mini Logy pallet exchanger system is well suited to most products, and where pallets need to be change from wooden pallets to plastic pallets automatically, or vice versa. The system can be assembled according to your needs and capacity. Nlodpfx Alshx D Alehec Our systems can be customized and work with AGV solutions (Automated Guided Vehicles).

Condition: used, Make: Leomotor A/SType: KC 218B159 - LM 2000 - 12630 Nsdpfjdc A Rnox Alhjlc

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2003, operating hours: 200 h, functionality: fully functional, fuel type: diesel, color: blue, power: 80 kW (108.77 HP), output voltage: 400 V, output frequency: 50 Hz, nominal power: 80 kW (108.77 HP), nominal power (apparent): 100 kVA, continuous power (apparent): 100 kVA, Used Diesel Generator – Volvo Penta TAD 520 GE | 100 kVA / 80 kW | Enclosed Technical Specifications: Brand: SES (Scandinavian Engineering Systems A/S) Engine Model: Volvo Penta TAD 520 GE Power Output: 100 kVA / 80 kW Voltage: 400/231 V Frequency: 50 Hz RPM:1500 Year of Manufacture: 2003 Enclosure: Yes (Soundproof cabinet included – see photos) Cooling: Water-cooled Control Panel: Integrated Condition: Used, in good working order Nlsdpfx Aswzimcelhec Additional Information: Engine rated at 102 kW PRP (Prime Rated Power): 94.0 kW Alternator type: UC 274 D Fully enclosed cabinet – suitable for outdoor installation Regularly maintained Ready for inspection and immediate dispatch Photos available upon request.

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, The Urschel Translicer is a powerful slicing machine for the food processing industry, suitable for hard products up to 101.6 mm in diameter and leafy or compressible products up to 152.4 mm in diameter. The slicer is ideal for processing a wide range of products, including cucumbers, carrots, potatoes, cabbage, leeks, onions, zucchini, bell peppers, celery, green beans, spinach, lettuce, endive, pak choi, Swiss chard, apples, pears, kiwis, pineapples, melons, mangoes, cooked meat, tofu, tempeh, and eggplants. The machine offers various interchangeable cutting options, including flat slices, julienne cuts, and the patented MicroSlice system. Thanks to adjustable blades, conveyor belt speed settings, and different cutting wheels, users can precisely control the dimensions of the cuts. The number, position, angle, and type of blades are matched to the cutting wheel and conveyor belt speed, which together determine the final cut size. Combination wheels equipped with both slicing and julienne blades can be used to produce shredded products. The belt slicer is easy to clean and complies with the strict hygiene standards required in the fruit and vegetable processing industry. The Urschel E-TRS is therefore a reliable and efficient solution for fruit and vegetable processing companies looking for flexible, high-speed, and precise cutting technology for their production lines. Standard Cutting Wheel Cuts - Flat slices: 0.8 – 76.2 mm - Crinkle-cut slices: 0.8 – 76.2 mm Julienne Cutting Wheel Cuts Julienne strips: 12.7 × 12.7 mm to 50.8 × 50.8 mm MicroSlice Cutting Wheel Cuts Slice thickness: 0.5 – 6 mm Specifications - Infeed height: 1,240 mm - Discharge height: 375 mm Nedpfx Alezcq Trshslc - Voltage: 400 V (3+N, 50 Hz) - Power: 2.95 kW - Weight: 584 kg - Year of manufacture: 2015 - Machine dimensions (W × D × H): 2,560 × 897 × 1,569 mm

Condition: used, Exterior dimensions: Diameter Ø 2500 mm, total height 6500 mm. Vertical, insulated stainless steel tanks – 4 pcs./identical Used 21,500 L, conical bottom with 3" outlet. Nljdpfouixi Eex Alhoc Conical top with CIP. Insulated with 50 mm, completed with aluminium trapezoidal plates. Cooling/heating jacket in the lower part of the cylinder. Brand: Gjettermann & Nielsen A/S AISI 316.

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 1999, PCI -NF MEMBRANE FILTRATION PLANT Item: M-2199-PCI-NF Plant This plant is membrane filtration plant used for remove water and / or very low molecular weight substances from liquid dairy products. The low molecular weight substances that are typically removed with NF membranes are monovalent ions such as K ions and Na ions. With APV Rannie-High Press Pump Good condition, Not used last two years!. Year of Production: 1999. Dimension: L 4.000 MM W 1200 mm Nlsdjhqhw Iopfx Alhec H 1900 mm Press: Medium pressure 20 bar Retentat flow: 1200 l/h

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2016, Overview This tray former and case sealer packaging module was manufactured in 2016 by Denmark SOCO SYSTEM A/S. The system consists of an automatic tray former and a case sealer designed for fully automated carton handling in packaging lines. The tray former erects flat carton blanks into trays, which are transferred via conveyor to downstream processes, while the case sealer applies self-adhesive tape to close cartons after filling. Technical data  Capacity: 12 – 14 cycles/min (tray former) Application: Carton forming and sealing Configuration: Automatic tray former with pneumatic forming system and automatic case sealer with tape sealing Utilities: Voltage: 3 × 400 V Frequency: 50 / 60 Hz (tray former), 50 Hz (case sealer) Air consumption: approx. 31.3 Nl/cycle (tray former), approx. 0.6 Nl/cycle (case sealer) Air pressure: 0.6 – 1.0 MPa Rated current: 2 A (tray former), 3 A (case sealer) Scope of Delivery  Tray former | SOCO SYSTEM A/S | BE 2200 ATS R | 2016 | Automatic tray former with pneumatic forming system and HMI control Case sealer | SOCO SYSTEM A/S | T-402 | 2016 | Automatic tape case sealer with conveyor integration Nledsyxxxvjpfx Alhoc

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2025, operating hours: 3 h, functionality: fully functional, feed rate X-axis: 7 m/min, workpiece weight (max.): 1,000 kg, working width: 2,500 mm, volume flow: 8,000 m³/h, year of last overhaul: 2025, overall weight: 3,200 kg, type of input current: three-phase, passage height: 210 mm, total height: 2,350 mm, total length: 2,450 mm, total width: 3,500 mm, working height: 950 mm, Ceetec DuoFlex Spray – The Coating Machine for Joiners, Furniture Makers, CLT and Glulam BSH Suppliers, and much more cases. Wherever a solid, straightforward, yet exceptionally well-equipped machine is needed, the DuoFlex Spray surface spray machine comes into play. Spraying doesn’t have to be complicated – not when you have a robust, long-lasting machine (made in Denmark, electronics from Germany – Beckhoff and others) that puts the operator at the center of it all. Everything is intuitive and easy to use, yet you get features you’ll struggle to find elsewhere – or only in significantly more expensive machines. Here are some hard facts about the DuoFlex Spray: 1. Color changes in just 3–5 minutes 2. System volume only 2.5–3L of paint/lacquer 3. Suitable for both solvent-based and water-based coatings 4. Two fully separated circuits – ideal for solvent/water or clear/topcoat separation 5. Maximum reproducibility – thanks to smart programming that stores all key parameters automatically 6. Quick to learn – after just 4–6 hours of training, even a baker can spray better than a manual sprayer with 10 years’ experience 7. Modular expandability – drying systems, sanding units, preheating, robotic integration – all from a single source 8. Service that speaks your language – our owner spent nearly 10 years as a coatings manager and brings hands-on expertise to your shop. The machines are extremely durable, and if anything should go wrong, we maintain well-stocked spare parts warehouses in both Germany and Denmark Processing dimensions for the DuoFlex Spray: 1. Standard: 1,300 mm width × 200 mm height 2. Larger: 1,800 mm width × 200 mm height 3. Up to: 3,200 mm width × 330 mm height Length: from 250 mm up to virtually unlimited. If you want to coat CLT ceiling panels 16, 18, or 20 meters long, we’ll simply build the right handling system for you. Sound interesting? Would you like to try the machine in our technical center? Do you have specific requirements and wonder if we can deliver? Then I’ll be happy to help you personally. Njdpfsffc Tyjx Alhjlc Best regards, Martin Bruhn Owner, Bruhn Lackieranlagen // Exclusive Sales Partner of Ceetec A/S – Middelfart, Denmark

Condition: used, Type: Ruhle SR2 with Elevator Loading sections (L x W x H): 500x120x200 mm Cutting length: 1,0 – 30,0 mm Saw blades 1 set Capacity: up to 1800 kg/hour Electric power: 3.5 kW Machine dimension in cm: Width: 70 cm Lenght: 180 cm Njdsh Dp R Nepfx Alholc Height: 125 cm Delivery time: 10 working days after advanced payment

Condition: as good as new (ex-display), Year of construction: 2026, Working width 4500 mm Working height 3000 mm Number of cylinders 6 St. Dimensions (L/W/H) 5500x1400x3550 mm Weight 3000 kg S&S frame press Bavaria 2000 L, built 2026 ----- SHORT TIMED availabe exw warehouse Engelfried, 73447 Oberkochen NEW for the Holz-Handwerk 2026 trade fair in Nuremberg: Now also with semi-automatic positioning of the vertical press cylinders 1, 2, and 3 via enabling switch, including ON/OFF selector switch for beam 2 With automatic pressing cycle + manual control for corner connections tenon+slots and dowel connection/mortised tenon, can be switched using a selector switch on the control cabinet. With basic equipment for optional use of counter profiles if the sash is rebated on the loose part. CE version Basic machine in the strongest frame welded construction, with thick-walled special hollow profiles. Guideways of the pressure beams for the press corners in a low-abrasion machined version. Fast, smooth, manual width adjustment using ball-bearing carriage, fixing in 50 mm hole grid, optional motorized width adjustment with hydraulic clamping (at an additional cost). Nsdpfx Aloyyqnfshslc Height adjustment and pressing using long-stroke cylinders in one work cycle. Right-hand press corners with integrated horizontal cylinders, therefore no vertical positioning of the horizontal pressure cylinders is necessary, which avoids cylinder collisions. Lower support can be adjusted in several positions to the most suitable insertion height. 3 KW compact hydraulic system with integrated control block, variable pressure control from 20 - 120 bar, pressure gauge Control via touch button with separate control circuits for the vertical and horizontal press cylinders, mounted on a freely movable control panel. 2 vertical press cylinders, double-acting, stroke adapted to working height, piston diameter 60 mm Pressure force per cylinder max. 2100 kg 2 horizontal press cylinders, double-acting, 80 mm stroke, piston diameter 40 mm Pressure force per cylinder max. 1250 kg Abutment and pressure plate depth 100 mm Control cabinet on the machine base on the left, 400 volts, 50 Hz Machine with ready-to-connect plug 16 A Paint: RAL 7035 light gray with RAL 7016 anthracite gray Working size: length x height = 4,500 mm x 2,750 mm Note: Actual working size: 4,500 x 3,000 mm (length x height) Space required: 5,500 mm x 1,400 mm x 3,550 mm (LengthxWidthxHeight) Article medium pressure bar complete with pressure cylinder, pressure hose and shut-off valve up to 2,750 mm high Note: actual working height: 3,000 mm Article Individual pressure control for medium pressure bar, pressure control range up to max. 100 bar (For pressing cross-bar windows) Article infinitely height-adjustable cross pressure device, complete with pressure cylinder and abutment, throttle and shut-off valve Article Individual pressure control for cross pressure device pressure control range up to max. 100 bar (For pressing cross-bar window) Article Shut-off valve on the 3rd vertical cylinder Article Shut-off valve on the upper horizontal cylinder Article Shut-off valve on the lower horizontal cylinder ...

Condition: new, Type: S 300 l 2P-V Complete stainless steel Hopper capacity 300 liter Double working shafts Rotation of shafts in both directions Vacuum: 0,04 – 0,06 mpa Electric power: 4.4 kW Voltage: 380 V / 50 Hz Discharging pneumatic flaps PLC + Touchscreen control Delay start 99 programs Installation dimensions of machine in cm: Nlsdpfx Alohd U R Hohec Width: 135 Lenght: 84 Height: 142 Delivery time: after advanced payment, one working day

Condition: new, Type: S 200 l 2P Complete stainless steel Hopper capacity 200 liter Double working shafts with paddles Rotation of shafts in both directions Protection cover Two motors and two gears, transmission chain Electric power: 1.5 kW + 1.5 kW Voltage: 380 V / 50 Hz Discharging: 2 flaps Installation dimensions of machine in cm: Width: 120 Lenght: 65 Nlodpfx Alshd U Taehec Height: 100 Delivery time: after advanced payment, one working day

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2020, PRICE: 2500 EUR Type: S 120 l Complete stainless steel Hopper capacity 120 liter Single working shaft Nedpfsf S A Ivjx Alhslc Rotation of shaft in both directions Protection cover Electric power: 3 kW Voltage: 220 V / 50 Hz Installation dimensions of machine in cm: Width: 91 Lenght: 65 Height: 87 Delivery time: after advanced payment, one working day

Condition: new, Type: S 150 l Complete stainless steel Nlodpfx Aleh Dp Sbshoc Hopper capacity 150 liter Single working shaft with paddles Rotation of shaft in both directions Automatic stopping when cover is open Electric power: 2.2 kW Voltage: 380 V / 50 Hz Installation dimensions of machine in cm: Width: 100 Lenght: 60 Height: 100 Delivery time: after advanced payment, one working day

Condition: new, Type: S 500 l 2P-V Complete stainless steel Hopper capacity 500 liter Double working shafts Rotation of shafts in both directions Vacuum: 0,04 – 0,06 mpa Electric power: 5.6 kW Voltage: 380 V / 50 Hz Discharging pneumatic flaps Nsdpfohd U R Uox Alholc PLC + Touchscreen control Delay start 99 programs Installation dimensions of the machine in cm: Width: 160 Lenght: 95 Height: 142 Delivery time: after advanced payment, one working day

Condition: used, empty load weight: 20,000 kg, maximum load weight: 66,000 kg, overall weight: 86,000 kg, axle configuration: > 3 axles, first registration: 09/2019, loading space length: 10,000 mm, loading space width: 2,550 mm, loading space height: 900 mm, suspension: air, tire size: 245/70R17.5, color: red, mileage: 1,001 km, gearing type: other, driver cabin: other, Equipment: ABS, Vehicle location: Bovenden, air suspension, 6 axles, BPW axles, 1st axle liftable, forced steering, lifting and lowering, ABS (anti-lock braking system), central lubrication system, extendable, width adjustable to 3m, lashing points, hydraulic ramps, front supports, rear supports, EBS. Superstructure: Telescopic, extending by 7m. Fully extended 21.25m, 10-17m in the bed. Storage box on the gooseneck: L: 2450mm, W: 2450mm, H: 450mm. Kingpin 2 inches, 1st axle liftable, 5 x hydromechanically forced steering axles, 6 x 10t BPW axles, central lubrication system, gooseneck hydraulically adjustable, hydraulic pump powered electrically by the tractor unit (hydraulics can also be connected to the tractor unit), wireless and cable remote control. Nlsdpfx Ajzhck Solhoc Tires with tread between 50% and 99%. ACCESSORY INFORMATION WITHOUT GUARANTEE, subject to changes, prior sale, and errors!

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2025, functionality: fully functional, warranty duration: 12 months, type of input current: AC, product width (max.): 400 mm, input voltage: 230 V, Minipack Modular 50S The Minipack Modular 50S is a compact, well-proven semi-automatic packaging machine with L-shaped sealing for producing shrink wrap packaging. The machine is universally applicable and easy to operate. Njdpfex Tr Tcjx Alhslc – Semi-automatic packaging machine with L-shaped sealing – Electronically controlled sealing system – Manual or automatic operation mode – Simple and intuitive operation – Output up to 900 units per hour – Usable sealing bar dimensions: 540 × 400 mm – Max. film roll width: 600 mm – Max. film roll diameter: 250 mm – Working table height: 930 mm – Machine dimensions (closed): 1,565 × 750 × 1,100 mm – Machine dimensions (open): 1,565 × 750 × 1,400 mm – Machine weight: 151 kg (net) – Machine on wheels

Condition: new, power: 118 kW (160.44 HP), fuel type: diesel, overall weight: 3,500 kg, color: white, gearing type: mechanical, number of seats: 7, Year of construction: 2025, Equipment: ABS, air conditioning, central locking, electronic stability program (ESP), navigation system, * IVECO 35C16H3.0 D truck, double cab 6+1, new model, 2026 * New vehicle with a new three-way tipper * Wheelbase: 3450 mm * Gross vehicle weight: 3500 kg * 06520 - 12V 13-pin trailer socket * 73239 - Preparation for EU tachograph D 4.1 * 07638 - Reversing warning sound, can be deactivated * 08628 - Roof rack above the windshield * 79247 - USB socket on driver and passenger side - charging port * 77742 - Grab handle on A-pillar * 07820 - Trailer coupling, ball head * 01565 - Fuel tank 86L * 02210 - Spare wheel storage * 00726 - Spare wheel storage at the end of the frame * 06094 - Trapezoid spring with auxiliary spring, rear axle * 76104 - Air conditioning * 07196 - Air conditioning compressor 170ccm * 00259 - Comfort driver's seat with armrest and lumbar support, leather * 79336 - Radiator grille with chrome inserts * 02443 - Leather steering wheel with buttons for radio, telephone, and menu * 72619 - Adjustable steering column in height and inclination * 72841 - Light and rain sensor * 06555 - Fog lights * 01606 - Digital DAB radio with 7-inch touchscreen * 00676 - Rear view camera with dynamic lines * 75082 - Passenger bench seat with multifunctional storage compartment * 05925 - Additional, programmable speed limiter * 00190 - Protection for oil pan * 6-speed transmission * DIMENSIONS OF THE PLATFORM AND STANDARD EXTERNAL DIMENSIONS OF THE PLATFORM: 3130 x 1980 mm M.C.T.C. APPROVAL AND ISSUANCE OF THE CE DECLARATION OF CONFORMITY STANDARD TECHNICAL FEATURES * HYDRAULIC SYSTEM WITH ELECTRO-HYDRAULIC UNIT AND REMOTE CONTROL * PLATFORM MADE OF 3 MM THICK SHEET METAL (ONE-PIECE) * NOTE: SIDE PANELS MADE OF ALUMINUM, TYPE TR5 | THICKNESS 40 MM AND HEIGHT 400 MM * FRONT PANEL MADE OF SHEET METAL, HEIGHT 500 MM * REMOVABLE/SHAPED FRONT HEADBOARD WITH CAB PROTECTION PLATE * RUBBER PROTECTION ON THE FRONT HEADBOARD Nljdpfxezd Ixgs Alhoc * REAR HEADBOARD WITH UPPER RUBBER PROTECTION * 1 TOOLBOX, 750 MM, MADE OF THERMOPLASTIC * 2 SIDE ROPE WINCHES * NON-APPROVED TRAILER COUPLING * PAIR OF PROTECTIVE GRILLES FOR THE REAR LIGHTS * PAIR OF REAR MUD FLAPS MADE OF RUBBER * We will gladly prepare a personal financing/leasing offer for you! Please contact us! * Sale only to commercial customers or for export. Subject to prior sale and errors and omissions excepted.

Condition: used, mileage: 7,13,052 km, power: 206 kW (280.08 HP), first registration: 10/2015, fuel type: diesel, gearing type: automatic, emission class: euro6, color: blue, brakes: retarder, total length: 11,980 mm, total width: 2,980 mm, total height: 2,500 mm, Year of construction: 2015, Equipment: ABS, air conditioning, fog lights, power assisted steering, traction control, = Additional options and accessories = - Climate control - EBS - Electrically operated mirrors - Heater - Hydraulic power steering - Reverse camera - Sun visor - Tachograph = More information = Engine capacity: 10.518 cc Njdpfszdb E Iox Alhslc Make of engine: MAN

Condition: used, mileage: 8,25,115 km, power: 206 kW (280.08 HP), first registration: 10/2015, fuel type: diesel, gearing type: automatic, emission class: euro6, color: blue, brakes: retarder, total length: 11,980 mm, total width: 2,980 mm, total height: 2,500 mm, Year of construction: 2015, Equipment: ABS, air conditioning, fog lights, power assisted steering, traction control, = Additional options and accessories = - Climate control Nodpfx Aozdbzcjlhjlc - EBS - Electrically operated mirrors - Heater - Hydraulic power steering - Reverse camera - Sun visor - Tachograph = More information = Engine capacity: 10.518 cc Make of engine: MAN

Condition: used, mileage: 8,46,649 km, power: 206 kW (280.08 HP), first registration: 06/2015, fuel type: diesel, gearing type: automatic, emission class: euro6, color: blue, brakes: retarder, total length: 11,980 mm, total width: 2,980 mm, total height: 2,500 mm, Year of construction: 2015, Equipment: ABS, air conditioning, fog lights, power assisted steering, traction control, = Additional options and accessories = - Climate control - EBS - Electrically operated mirrors - Heater - Hydraulic power steering - Reverse camera - Sun visor Njdpfx Aljzdby Soholc - Tachograph = More information = Engine capacity: 10.518 cc Make of engine: MAN

Condition: used, mileage: 6,12,300 km, power: 235 kW (319.51 HP), first registration: 01/2014, fuel type: diesel, number of seats: 45, emission class: euro5, color: white, brakes: retarder, Equipment: ABS, air conditioning, parking heater, * MAN A 20 * Lion's City Ü * First registered in 2014 * From 2nd German owner * Repair history available from 12/2019 onwards! * 235 kW / EURO 5 - EEV * Retarder * Air conditioning * Trailer hitch * Various tilting windows * Equipped with video surveillance * Double glazing * Convector heating * 95 km/h * Excerpt from the repair history: Nsdpjxc Ax Sofx Alholc * All work was carried out externally in specialist workshops – invoices are, of course, available! * Major oil change at 604,526 km (30.06.2025), at 604,525 km – solenoid valve on 2nd axle right renewed * 17.05.25: steering damper renewed front axle right, water pump replaced, brake caliper rear axle right, coolant radiator * Invoice for 10,200 EUR from MAN / Neoplan authorized service partner from 10/2024 including: shock absorbers front axle replaced, air suspension bellows front axle left and right replaced, rolling bellows replaced front axle left and right, transmission oil, ... * Invoice for 4,554 EUR for new combined cylinder, combustion chamber, heat exchanger, circulation pump, ... * Brake line front axle renewed, compressor including power steering pump resealed * Buyer is obliged to independently verify the condition and equipment of the goods/vehicle! * etc. * Vehicle may still be in use / Mileage and condition may differ * All information without guarantee * Sale subject to prior sale * Please refer to our Terms & Conditions

Condition: used, mileage: 6,60,100 km, power: 235 kW (319.51 HP), first registration: 01/2013, fuel type: diesel, number of seats: 45, gearing type: automatic, emission class: euro5, color: white, brakes: retarder, Equipment: ABS, air conditioning, parking heater, * Our internal number: 1153 * MAN A 20 Lion's City NÜ * Clean condition, second German owner! * First registration: 01/2013 * Retarder * Matrix display: front / side / rear with LAWO control unit * Manual folding ramp * Driver's area air conditioning Nledpsxcdnbefx Alhec * Auxiliary heater * Maintenance history: - Oil service performed on 16.06.25 - At 655,890 km: rear axle spring brake cylinders replaced - 03/2024: water pump and belt drive replaced - 09/2023: steering idler arm replaced - Vehicle history from 2019 to 2025 available * The customer is responsible for independently verifying the condition and equipment of the vehicle! * Etc. * Vehicle may still be in use; mileage and condition may differ * All information without guarantee * We reserve the right to prior sale * Please refer to our Terms and Conditions

Condition: used, mileage: 1,001 km, fuel type: diesel, color: silver, driver cabin: other, gearing type: other, loading space length: 5,100 mm, loading space width: 2,350 mm, loading space height: 900 mm, Vehicle location: Bovenden, steel body Nedpfxsi Rrtwj Alhelc Body: 3-S tipper, aluminum side boards, split on the right, foldable and swing-out. Exchange system available as an option (ex 2646) – additional cost with semi-trailer coupling frame: EUR 1,500.00. ACCESSORY INFORMATION WITHOUT GUARANTEE, subject to changes, interim sales and errors!