Used Casati Big 2600 for sale (1,538)

Condition: excellent (used), mileage: 7,19,904 km, power: 279 kW (379.33 HP), first registration: 06/2002, fuel type: diesel, axle configuration: 6x4, fuel: diesel, color: white, driver cabin: day cab, gearing type: mechanical, emission class: euro3, suspension: steel, total length: 7,850 mm, total width: 2,500 mm, total height: 2,950 mm, Year of construction: 2002, = Additional Options and Accessories = - PTO Nedpfoy Rh U Rsx Af Rewi = Notes = BELGIAN TRUCK MANUAL TRANSMISSION HEAVY-DUTY AXLES = Further Information = Technical Information Number of cylinders: 6 Axle configuration Suspension: Leaf suspension Front axle: Steerable Rear axle 1: Twin tires; Reduction: outboard planetary axles Rear axle 2: Twin tires; Reduction: outboard planetary axles Weights Unladen weight: 13,950 kg Payload: 12,050 kg Gross Vehicle Weight (GVW): 26,000 kg Features Pump: Yes Condition Technical condition: very good Visual condition: very good Financial Information Price: On request More Information Contact Thierry Leemans for further information.

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2014, functionality: fully functional, type of input current: three-phase, input voltage: 400 V, measuring range X-axis: 254 mm, measuring range Y-axis: 152 mm, measuring range Z-axis: 100 mm, workpiece weight (max.): 45 kg, feed length X-axis: 254 mm, feed length Y-axis: 152 mm, feed length Z-axis: 100 mm, travel distance X-axis: 254 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 152 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 100 mm, input frequency: 50 Hz, S-T Industries Profile Projector 22-2600 – 30" Screen, 5X Magnification | Precision Optical Comparator Now available at Used Machine Tools Ireland Ltd – a high-precision S-T Industries Profile Projector, Model 22-2600, with a large 30" (760mm) viewing screen, Heidenhain Quadra-chek 100 Control and 5X magnification lens, ideal for dimensional inspection in precision manufacturing. Previously used in a medical device company, this optical comparator is in very good condition and has been maintained to the highest standards. S-T Industries Profile Projector 22-2600 | 30" Screen | 5X Magnification | Very Good Condition 🔧 Manufacturer: S-T Industries 📍 Location: Ireland 📅 Model: 22-2600 🧰 Condition: Very good – ex-medical device company 📦 Available: Immediately 🛠️ Technical Specifications: Brand: S-T Industries Model Number: 22-2600 Control: Heidenhain Quadra-Chek 100 Screen Size: 30" (760mm) diameter Magnification Lens: 5X Worktable Travel (X-Y): 10" x 6" (254mm x 152mm) Glass Stage Plate: 12" x 8" (305mm x 203mm) Load Capacity: Approx. 45 kg (100 lbs) Screen Rotation: 360° with digital readout Illumination: Surface (Oblique) Illumination – Halogen Profile Illumination – Collimated light with adjustable brightness Focus Travel (Z-Axis): 4" (100mm) Power Supply: 230V / 50Hz Condition: Very good – ex-medical device company Country of Origin: USA Location: Ireland 🧭 Ideal For: Medical device manufacturing Aerospace & precision engineering Tool & die inspection Quality control and dimensional inspection labs S-T Industries Profile Projector for sale Used optical comparator Ireland 30" screen profile projector Precision measuring equipment Dimensional inspection projector Nwsdpfx Ajw Nyfwof Rei 22-2600 comparator S-T Industries 5X magnification projector Used metrology equipment Notes: *Specifications are given in good faith but not guaranteed*

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2010, functionality: fully functional, type of input current: three-phase, input voltage: 400 V, measuring range X-axis: 254 mm, measuring range Y-axis: 152 mm, measuring range Z-axis: 100 mm, workpiece weight (max.): 45 kg, feed length X-axis: 254 mm, feed length Y-axis: 152 mm, feed length Z-axis: 100 mm, travel distance X-axis: 254 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 152 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 100 mm, input frequency: 50 Hz, For Sale: S-T Industries Profile Projector 22-2600 – 30" Screen, 5X Magnification | Precision Optical Comparator Now available at Used Machine Tools Ireland Ltd – a high-precision S-T Industries Profile Projector, Model 22-2600, with a large 30" (760mm) viewing screen, Heidenhain Quadra-chek 100 Control and 5X magnification lens, ideal for dimensional inspection in precision manufacturing. Previously used in a medical device company, this optical comparator is in very good condition and has been maintained to the highest standards. S-T Industries Profile Projector 22-2600 | 30" Screen | 5X Magnification | Very Good Condition 🔧 Manufacturer: S-T Industries 📍 Location: Ireland 📅 Model: 22-2600 🧰 Condition: Very good – ex-medical device company 📦 Available: Immediately 🛠️ Technical Specifications: Nedsw Nygnspfx Af Rswi Brand: S-T Industries Model Number: 22-2600 Control: Heidenhain Quadra-Chek 100 Screen Size: 30" (760mm) diameter Magnification Lens: 5X Worktable Travel (X-Y): 10" x 6" (254mm x 152mm) Glass Stage Plate: 12" x 8" (305mm x 203mm) Load Capacity: Approx. 45 kg (100 lbs) Screen Rotation: 360° with digital readout Illumination: Surface (Oblique) Illumination – Halogen Profile Illumination – Collimated light with adjustable brightness Focus Travel (Z-Axis): 4" (100mm) Power Supply: 230V / 50Hz Condition: Very good – ex-medical device company Country of Origin: USA Location: Ireland 🧭 Ideal For: Medical device manufacturing Aerospace & precision engineering Tool & die inspection Quality control and dimensional inspection labs S-T Industries Profile Projector for sale Used optical comparator Ireland 30" screen profile projector Precision measuring equipment Dimensional inspection projector 22-2600 comparator S-T Industries 5X magnification projector Used metrology equipment Notes: *Specifications are given in good faith but not guaranteed*

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2018, spindle speed (max.): 4,000 rpm, travel distance X-axis: 260 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 53 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 830 mm, spindle motor power: 33,000 W, controller manufacturer: SIEMENS, controller model: 828D, number of axes: 3, This 3-axis DOOSAN Puma 2600 SY II was manufactured in 2018, designed for precision in horizontal turning. Ideal for complex machining tasks, this machine ensures robust performance and durability. If you are looking to get high quality turning capabilities consider the DOOSAN Puma 2600 SY II machine we have for sale. Contact us for more information. Additional equipment • Mekiload Gantry Loader • Renishaw Equator • Renishaw Equator • Machine includes a rotary indexing magazine • Machine includes a gantry robot Machine Benefits Qualitative Machine Benefits • Tool change time: 1. 0 second • Max speed (station): 5000 rpm • Holder for turning tools: 25 x 25 mm • Holder for boring bar: Ø50 mm • Coolant pump capacity: 1. 5 kw Technical Machine Benefits • Max. Turning diameter over bed: 780 mm • Max. Turning diameter over slide: 630 mm • Max. Turning length: 760 mm • Main spindle torque: 719 nm • Spindle mount (main): a2 #8 • Sub spindle speed: 6000 rpm • Sub spindle power (30 min): 18. 2 kw Nwsdpsyr R A Esfx Af Rsi • Sub spindle torque: 220 nm • Spindle mount (sub): a2 #5 • Number of stations: 24 (12 driven) Extra Information Machine still under power

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2020, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 1, overall weight: 34 kg, maximum load weight: 400 kg, color: grey, For sale: used plastic BIG BOXES /CAPP plastic in good condition actual photos available dimensions: 1200x1000x625 mm, capacity: 520 liters empty weight: 34 kg Nedpfx Aovza N Nsf Rswi 4 legs currently 200 units available for sale EXW Nové Mesto nad Váhom, Slovakia Note: optional lids available for purchase at €15 each

Year of construction: 2009, condition: ready for operation (used), functionality: fully functional, product length (max.): 1,400 mm, product width (max.): 1,000 mm, Equipment: CE marking, TECHNICAL DETAILS Number of blast turbines: 4 Power per blast turbine: 22 kW Abrasive throughput per turbine: 7 kg/hour Shot flow rate: 450 kg/min Blast velocity: 80 m/s Nodpfx Afoyua D Rj Rowi Maximum product dimension: 1,400 x 1,000 mm Cabin diameter: 2,200 mm MACHINE DETAILS Control system: Siemens EQUIPMENT Vibratory screen for abrasive media and discharged material Feed via external rail system CE marking

Condition: like new (used), Year of construction: 2004, working width 2700 mm working height 100 mm Nwedjxcn Dtopfx Af Rji hydraulic cutting gauge adjustment to size cast body power supply 400V 3000 kg Year of manufacture 2004

Condition: used, Collapsible Big Box with 4 access flaps and lid Manufacturer: Auer External dimensions: 120x80x100 cm Internal dimensions: 117x71x82 cm Weight: 43 kg Colour: grey Volume: 700 litres Condition: used, very good 80 units in stock. Nsdpfx Afew Uithe Rowi

Condition: used, mileage: 3,92,994 km, power: 279 kW (379.33 HP), first registration: 06/2005, tire size: 13r22.5, axle configuration: 8x4, wheelbase: 1,800 mm, color: white, gearing type: mechanical, number of gears: 12, suspension: steel, Year of construction: 2005, Equipment: electric window regulation, General information Applicable material: Concrete Drivetrain Drive: Wheel Make of engine: Volvo Axle configuration Tyre size: 13r22.5 Suspension: leaf suspension Axle 2: Steering Axle 3: Double wheels Axle 4: Double wheels Weights Empty weight: 14.320 kg Carrying capacity: 17.680 kg GVW: 32.000 kg Functional Make of bodywork: LIEBHERR Nwodpfxoy Nld Ho Af Roi

Condition: good (used), Packaging and Labeling Line – ILPRA + Bizerba Nodjw Ht Uzepfx Af Rowi Comprising: Packaging machine Brand: ILPRA Series: FOODPACK Model: BIG MEC Number: FP 4698 Year of production: 2002 Voltage: 400 V Tray dimensions: 22x17 mm Sealing machine Brand: ILPRA Series: FP BIG MEC K/G Model: STAMPO Number: S 6036 Year of production: 2002 Voltage: 230 V Bizerba labeler

Condition: used, incl. cyclone, frame, blower (Image 1 without Heger dust collection silo) 1/7 Frame 1,520 x 1,470 x 2,450 mm 2/7 Pipe package Nwsdpfx Aoy Atr Esf Rei 3/7 Frame 1,500 x 1,500 x 2,800 mm 4/7 Frame 2,600 x 1,520 x 2,400 mm 5/7 Cyclone 6/7 Pipe package 7/7 Blower Additional images available

Condition: new, functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2025, overall weight: 1,600 kg, loading space width: 3,000 mm, loading space length: 6,000 mm, loading space height: 2,600 mm, Equipment: air conditioning, lighting, Containers in the image are in stock and immediately available. Inspection and collection are possible. We offer Villex Big Wood Pavilion Containers in this listing, which can be used as office containers, sanitary containers, school containers, kindergarten containers, refugee containers, living containers, or construction site containers. New & ready-to-use including air conditioning Size: 6.0 x 3 x 2.6 m Delivery: Possible nationwide in Germany Standard Features: Condition: New & fully assembled Exterior color: Black + Brown (as shown in the photos) External wall thickness: 50 mm Area: 18 m² Weight: 1600 kg 1x entrance door 2x windows → Single-leaf, fixed glazing, and tilting function included Electrical installation: 6x sockets, circuit breaker + fuse, surface-mounted wiring (PVC) We can manufacture your container individually according to your requirements! Optional features for an additional charge: Custom dimensions e.g. 7x3m, 4x2.4m, double containers, triple units, and much more Different window sizes Various color options Floor color options Practical forklift pockets Air conditioning Lighting Roller shutters Heating WC, shower, toilet, washbasin Kitchen Plastered interior walls And much more Delivery is usually carried out with our own vehicles. Payment can be made in cash upon delivery to our driver or conveniently in advance by PayPal or bank transfer. The delivery time for standard containers in stock is around 1-2 weeks nationwide after receipt of order, depending on the postcode area. Nsdey Egrdjpfx Af Rewi We manufacture and deliver custom containers within 1-4 weeks.

Condition: new, functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2025, loading space width: 3,000 mm, loading space length: 6,000 mm, loading space height: 2,600 mm, Equipment: air conditioning, lighting, We offer our Villex Big Cube Short Doppio Window Nero Container in this listing, which can be used as an office container, classroom container, kindergarten container, refugee container, living container, or construction site container. Dimensions: 6.0 x 3.0 x 2.6 m Delivery: Nationwide possible Standard Features: Condition: New & Assembled Exterior color: RAL 7016 (anthracite) Exterior walls: 50 mm thick Area: 18 m² Weight: 1300 kg 1x Entrance door (205cm*105cm) 2x Double windows – single-sash, fixed glazing with tilt function 1x Air conditioning for cooling & heating Electrical installation: 6x power outlets (3x double sockets), circuit breaker + safety fuse, surface-mounted wiring (PVC) We manufacture your container completely according to your individual requirements! Optional extras (at additional cost): • Special dimensions, e.g. 7x3m, 4x2.4m, double container, triple unit, etc. • Different window sizes • Various colors • Flooring color choice • Practical forklift pockets • Lighting • Roller shutters • Heating • WC, shower, toilet, washbasin • Kitchen • Plastered interior walls • And much more Nwjdpfoy Egr Rsx Af Rji Delivery is normally carried out with our own vehicles. Payment can be made in cash upon delivery to our driver, or conveniently in advance via PayPal or bank transfer. The delivery time nationwide is approximately 1-3 weeks after receipt of order, depending on the postcode area. Custom containers are manufactured and delivered within 1-4 weeks.

Condition: new, functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2025, color: white, overall weight: 1,300 kg, loading space width: 3,000 mm, loading space length: 6,000 mm, loading space height: 2,600 mm, Container in the picture in stock and available immediately. 6x3x2.6m, turnkey assembled, including air conditioning Inspection and collection possible. In this offer, we present Villex Bic Cube Blanc containers, which can be used as office containers, sanitary containers, classroom containers, kindergarten containers, refugee containers, residential containers, or construction site containers. Dimensions: 6x3x2.6m Delivery: nationwide available Standard features: Condition: New & assembled Exterior color: RAL 9002 (grey white) Interior color: Walls – white, floor – wood look, blue & grey (dark) Exterior walls: 50 mm thick Floor area: 18 m² Weight: 1300 kg 1x entrance door (205cm x 105cm) 3x windows (105cm x 103cm) – single sash, fixed glazing with tilt function Air conditioning (heating & cooling) incl. remote control Electrics: 6x sockets, FL switch + fuse, surface-mounted wiring (PVC) We also manufacture your container individually to your specifications! Nodpsy Egrqefx Af Rowi Optional features for an additional charge: Custom size e.g. 7x3m, 4x2.4m, double or triple containers, and more – various window sizes – different colors – flooring options – practical forklift pockets – air conditioning – lighting – roller shutters – heating – WC, shower, toilet, washbasin – kitchen – plastered interior walls – and much more. Delivery is usually made with our own vehicles. Payment is possible in cash on delivery to our driver, or in advance via PayPal or bank transfer. Delivery time for standard containers in stock nationwide is approximately 1-2 weeks after receipt of order, depending on postcode area. Custom containers are manufactured and delivered within 1-4 weeks.

Condition: new, 1 brand-new hydraulic press brake with 2-axis NC positioning control, make ELGO P 40 Make: LAMI NOVA, Origin China Model: P 2600 Exclusive representation! Technical data: Pressure capacity 100 t Folding length 2600 mm Clearance between the uprights 2050 mm Projection 320 mm Installation height 405 mm Stroke 140 mm Feed speed 60 mm/s Working speed 7.5 mm/s Retraction speed 55 mm/s Drive power 7.5 kW Dimensions L x W x H 3050 x 1650 x 2520 mm Weight 6200 kg Accessories / special features: - 2-axis NC positioning control, make ELGO P 40 for motorized plunge depth and backgauge plunging depth and the back gauge - PM 1 upper tool, consisting of 3 x 835 mm, slightly cranked, R=0.8 mm, pressure load 100 t/m, tip 88° - Universal die 60 x 60 mm with several V-openings - Back gauge with ball screws, length approx. 600 mm - Front support arms - Foot pedal with EMERGENCY STOP - Paint finish: dark gray RAL 7031, light gray RAL 7035, yellow RAL 1033 - Hydraulics BOSCH, DUPLOMATIK, REXROTH or OILCONTROL - Electrical system SCHNEIDER - Operating instructions - CE-compliant Delivery time: approx. 8-10 weeks, after receipt of order Nwjdpor Hby Hsfx Af Roi Siegfried Volz Machine Tools Rüschebrinkstr. 151-153 DE - 44143 Dortmund-Wambel

Condition: refurbished (used), Year of construction: 2013, functionality: fully functional, power: 18.5 kW (25.15 HP), -300 mm x 2600 mm max. timber cross-section -circular saw blade D 900 mm determination of the value 8.000 € new flat motor 18.5 kW / 1450 r/min with flange 4.300 € new positioning gearmotor 1.700 € new circular saw blade AKE D 900 mm, Z 120, 10% discount 8.500 € new electrical control cabinet 22.500 € without steel construction and without assembly -the special saw was only used for about 5 hours after the overhaul >>Made in West Germany 100% massive steel construction with movable portal and mounted saw unit from above, circular saw motor 18.5 kW, 1450 rpm with electronic brake Nedpfx Afjcbq Nwo Rewi travel drive 2.5 kW with frequency converter, travel speed infinitely variable saw blade max. D 900 mm, cutting height max. approx. 300 mm if the saw unit is in the basic position, the circular saw blade is in a lower protective hood and completely covered. machine overhauled without additional safety devices >> The working width can also be increased by conversion

Condition: new, sheet width 2600 mm plate thickness 8,0 mm thickness at "Niro-steel" 5,0 mm down holder 12 Stück no. of strokes 18 Hub/min oil volume 200 ltr. cutting angle 1,5 ° engine output 15,0 kW weight of the machine ca. 6.300 kg range L-W-H 3525 x 2350 x 1700 mm ----- electr. / hydraulic CNC swing cut shears * with CYBELEC CNC touch screen control * with electr. / hydr. Kerf adjustment ----- Furnishing: - CNC electr. / hydraulic swing cut shears - CYBELEC CNC touch screen controller, model CybTouch 8 * Backgauge preselection - X axis * Cutting gap adjustment * Quantity * Cutting length limitation * Material preselection, including sheet thickness * Cutting line lighting - motorized backgauge, travel = 1,000 mm (X axis) * on ball screws * autom. Can be folded up at vel, for longer cuts - 1x side stop - 2x front support arms - Ball casters in the front support table - hinged finger protection, with safety switch - BOSCH / HOERBIGER hydraulic system - SIEMENS electrical system - light barrier behind the machine (safety device) - foot switch - CE mark / declaration of conformity - User manual: machine and control in German Nwsdpoxab D Iofx Af Rsi

Condition: used, x x x dismantled x +++++ Please note: The machine is dismantled and ready for loading. It is not possible to show it under power or make a video. Our offer includes already the best pictures. So we don’t have and won’t send additional pictures. +++++ Nwedsip Rdlopfx Af Rei

Condition: refurbished (used), Year of construction: 2017, machine/vehicle number: R-00550, load capacity: 12 kg, arm reach: 1,850 mm, controller manufacturer: IRC5, teach pendant manufacturer: DSQC679, Refurbished ABB 2600-12/1.85 manufactured in 2017.03. The robot comes with an IRC5 controller including Flexpendant DSQC679.   Our experts extensively tested the robot, after which we conducted a maintenance service according to the manufacturers’ specifications. The oil is examined for the amount of iron particles, indicating the corresponding axes' condition. Only robots in excellent mechanical condition will be completely refurbished, ensuring a long-term solution for our customers. This enables us to deliver our robots with a warranty term of 12 months as standard!   Brand: ABB Model: 2600-12/1.85 Model Number: IRB Year of Manufacture Robot: 2017.03 Warranty term (months): 12   Payload (kg): 12 Reach (mm): 1850 Nwsdpjyii Eqjfx Af Rsi Repeatability (mm): ± 0.04 Controlled Axes: 6-axis Installation Type: Floor, Upside-down Mount Weight (kg): 284   Controller: IRC5 Year of Manufacture Cabinet: 2017.03 RCC Length (m): 14   Teach Pendant: DSQC679 Teach Pendant Cable Length (m): 15

Condition: used, mileage: 2,80,000 km, power: 265 kW (360.30 HP), first registration: 02/2000, fuel type: diesel, axle configuration: 6x4, fuel: diesel, color: green, driver cabin: day cab, gearing type: mechanical, emission class: euro2, suspension: steel, Year of construction: 2000, Equipment: power assisted steering, = Additional options and accessories = - Hub Reduction - Immobilizer Nwjdpfx Aoy Ep Uljf Rei - PTO - Sper = Remarks = MAN 33,364, 2000, Euro 2, 6x4 with hub reduction, Fully leaf-sprung, Manual transmission, Stainless steel tank, Kipper, No vacuum pump = More information = Suspension: leaf suspension Front axle: Steering Rear axle 1: Double wheels; Reduction: hub reduction Rear axle 2: Double wheels; Reduction: hub reduction Number of cylinders: 6 Tipper: Back = Dealer information = Bank data: Rabobank Account: 39.33.10.655 IBAN: NL73RABO0393310655 Swift code: RABONL2U - Always check our bank details before transaction! - Reservation of vehicles is not possible without a deposit. - Writing and text errors are reserved for all vehicles offered.

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2005, Brand: Eurotec Dimensions L x W x H (mm): Outside: 600 x 400 x 120 / Inside: 570 x 370 x 100 Weight (kg) approx.: 1.86 each Quantity in stock: 2600 Nwodpeicz A Aefx Af Rji Manufactured in: Germany Comments: Used, but in good condition, previously used for freezer applications.

Year of construction: 2025, condition: new, functionality: fully functional, The ASCO® VS BIG vibrating screen offers a robust and powerful platform for a wide range of screening tasks. Featuring two vibrating motors, it is particularly practical for recycling companies and businesses in the construction, agricultural, and gardening sectors, where many different materials must be processed within tight time frames. Technical specifications: System capacity: 40-90 t/h Maximum bucket width: 3 m Screening area: 6.4 m² Nodpfx Afjwhl Rqo Rewi Drive power: 400 V / 2 x 0.9 kW Weight: 2160 kg Width: 3.62 m Length: 2.41 m Height: 2.85 m Loading height: 2.32 m Options: - Rods - Hopper - Support feet

Year of construction: 2025, condition: new, functionality: fully functional, The ASCO® VS BIG vibrating screen offers a robust and powerful platform for a wide range of screening tasks. Featuring two vibrating motors, it is particularly practical for recycling companies and businesses in the construction, agricultural, and gardening sectors, where many different materials must be processed within tight time frames. Technical Specifications: - System capacity: 40-150 t/h - Maximum bucket width: 3 m - Screening area: 12.8 m² - Drive power: 400 V / 2 x 1.5 kW - Weight: 2457 kg - Width: 3.62 m - Length: 2.41 m - Height: 2.85 m - Loading height: 2.46 m Options: - Bars - Hopper - Support feet - Separator plate Nedpfxowhmlvj Af Rswi

Condition: used, mileage: 2,45,000 km, power: 265 kW (360.30 HP), first registration: 02/2001, fuel type: diesel, axle configuration: 6x4, fuel: diesel, color: other, driver cabin: day cab, gearing type: mechanical, emission class: euro2, suspension: steel, Year of construction: 2001, MAN 33,364, 2001, 6x4 with hub reduction, Fully leaf-sprung, Manual transmission, Stainless steel tank, No pumps! = More information = Suspension: leaf suspension Front axle: Steering Rear axle 1: Double wheels; Reduction: hub reduction Rear axle 2: Double wheels; Reduction: hub reduction = Dealer information = Nwedpfx Afjy Dppvj Rji Bank data: Rabobank Account: 39.33.10.655 IBAN: NL73RABO0393310655 Swift code: RABONL2U - Always check our bank details before transaction! - Reservation of vehicles is not possible without a deposit. - Writing and text errors are reserved for all vehicles offered.

Condition: used, Big bag discharging station Adjustable to different heights Equipped with lifting yoke for forklift Nwodpsyt N N Tefx Af Roi Fitted with steel hopper and vibrating motor