Used Weeke Bp 140 for sale (76)

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1999, - 4-axis machine Bjdpfezz Iziex Aktelp - Support table 2800 x 1050 mm - Main spindle 7.5 / 9.0 kW - with drilling head and slotting cutter

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1999, Spindle nose: A11, turret: VDI60, voltage: 380V, rated current: 153A, fuse protection: 160A, control: Philips B2T, one tool position for boring bars is defective, no driven tools, without chuck, with documentation and maintenance records, the machine was mechanically overhauled in 2010. An on-site inspection is possible, available from mid-December 2026. Bledpfxez Agfvs Aktep

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 1999, machine/vehicle number: 0-250-04-1744, functionality: fully functional, input voltage: 400 V, number of axes: 4, number of slots in tool magazine: 8, total length: 7,500 mm, total width: 4,600 mm, overall weight: 6,000 kg, Equipment: CE marking, documentation/manual, For sale: Weeke Optimat BP 150, the largest model, a 4-axis, liquid-cooled machining center with 12 beams and two vacuum pumps, one of which has undergone a major overhaul. The machine is in continuous operation. The gross price includes 23% VAT. This is a reliable and durable machine; parts are readily available through the Hommag network and on the open market at very reasonable prices. I recently replaced the vertical drive shaft and other minor parts. It is a solid, heavy-duty, and rigid machine. The headstock covers are removed but are included as a complete set. The machine is still in continuous operation, working at 25% capacity. It has 12 vertical drilling units in the X-axis, 24 vertical drilling units in the Y-axis, and 12 horizontal drilling units. It also includes a grooving saw and a milling cutter. Two safety mats require repair or replacement. The price is 5,000 Euros, and loading onto a truck costs 890 Euros. I am selling it because I am closing my business due to my age. Blodpfx Aez Tfiaoktjp

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2000, functionality: fully functional, The machine is in excellent condition and currently in daily production use (approximately 2–3 hours per day). Bedoym Tc Rjpfx Aktslp It is being replaced with a newer, larger machine due to increased production capacity requirements. The machine is available immediately. Technical specifications and detailed data are shown in the attached photos. Worldwide shipping can be arranged for customers upon request.

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 1991, machine/vehicle number: 0 - 250 - 04 - 0558, Technical data : X working area 2,500 mm Working area Y 800 mm Z working area 40 mm Number of milling spindles 2 Vertical drilling spindles 16 Drilling spindles in X axis 2 Drilling spindles in Y axis 1 Bsdpfxjrwmwfj Aktolp Vacuum pump Machine table traverse table Weight approx. 3,500 kg CNC drilling and milling center WEEKE BP 10 , built in 1991. Panel area 5,200 x 1,500 mm. Machining area 2,500 x 800 mm, 16 vertical drilling stations, 1 keyway saw, 2 milling units, support plate handwheel and hydraulic unit. In 2016 he switched to Linux CNC 3D - new computer, new monitor, new software.

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 1997, functionality: fully functional, input current: 50 A, number of axes: 3, number of slots in tool magazine: 12, total length: 5,000 mm, total width: 2,900 mm, overall weight: 4,500 kg, Equipment: CE marking, documentation/manual, CNC milling machine with a tool magazine for 12 tools, featuring a vacuum clamping system to secure the workpiece, and includes a vacuum pump. Blsdpfx Asza U Nxjktsp

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1998, Used machine Year of manufacture: 1998 Blodpfjz Ab Nvjx Aktep Condition: Well-maintained (training machine) Equipment: Milling unit 5 kW Tool holder, cylindrical, 25 mm with hook spanner clamping Drilling unit 1.5 kW with 19 spindles Crosshead with 4 drilling spindles Saw unit can be swiveled from X to Y. Light barriers in the front area New PC in 2015 Operating system: Windows 98 Weeke software: Woodwop 4.0 Technical data: Travel range X: 3455 mm Travel range Y: 1480 mm Travel range Z: 260 mm External dimensions: Length: approx. 6115 mm Depth: approx. 3660 mm Location: Röllbach Availability: short-term

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1998, WEEKE BP 150/K Bsdszvbhrepfx Aktjlp Manufacturer: WEEKE Type: BP 150/K Year of construction: 1998 Machine type: CNC machining center / Point-to-point cantilever machine Working area X approx. 3,645 mm* Working area Y approx. 1,250 mm* Working area Z approx. 250 mm* 1 main spindle power: 10 kW Main spindle speed max. 24,000 rpm Tool holder: HSK-F63 Tool changer: 8-position 4th axis 30 vertical drilling spindles 6 horizontal drilling spindles Table system: Console table Number of consoles: 8 Vacuum pump Safety device Control system: HOMAG HOMATIC 2000 / HOMATIC 2000 IPC* Software: HOMAG woodWOP 4.5 4th axis: C-axis / NC-controlled auxiliary axis*

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2001, travel distance X-axis: 2,800 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 1,252 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 200 mm, number of axes: 3, spindle speed (max.): 24,000 rpm, This 3-axis Weeke OPTIMAT BP 120 was manufactured in 2001. It features a working area of 2800 mm in the X direction, 1252 mm in the Y direction, and 200 mm in the Z direction. The machine includes an automatic tool changer with an 8-position tool magazine and a maximum spindle speed of 24,000 rpm. If you are looking to get high-quality CNC wood machining capabilities, consider the Weeke OPTIMAT BP 120 machine we have for sale. Contact us for further details. • CNC software: HOMAG WOODWOP 4.0 • Electrical: 400 V, 50 Hz, 3~ + N; rated current 32 A; control/aux voltage 24 V; fuse rating 35 A • Automatic tool changer: Yes; tool magazine capacity: 8 positions • Table: Console / Pod & Rail; table length 3260 mm; number of consoles: 6 • Main spindle: quantity 1; tool holder HSK-F63 Bledpfx Akszwnh Uotep • Drilling spindles: vertical 21; horizontal (X) 4; horizontal (Y) 2 • Grooving saw: X direction • Material clamping: Vacuum clamping; vacuum system: Yes

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 1998, machine/vehicle number: 0-250-05-2654, functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 3,950 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 1,943 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 400 mm, controller model: HOMATIC-2000 IPC, No reserve price – guaranteed sale to the highest bidder! The machine is equipped with a C-axis! TECHNICAL DETAILS Travel distances X-axis: 3,950 mm Y-axis: 1,943 mm Z-axis: 400 mm Vertical drilling unit X-direction Drill spindles: 16 Z-stroke: 60 mm Drilling depth: max. 38 mm Rotational direction: clockwise/counterclockwise Speed: 1,500 - 5,900 rpm Drive: 1.5 kW Drill chuck: d= 10 mm Total drill length: 70 mm Drill diameter: max. 20 mm (15 spindles), 1 spindle up to 25 mm, max. 35 mm (1 reinforced spindle) Spindle spacing: 32 mm (15 spindles) Spindle type: individually controllable Extraction: central Vertical drilling unit Y-direction Drill spindles: 15 Z-stroke: 60 mm Drive: 1.5 kW Rotational direction: clockwise/counterclockwise Speed: 1,500 - 5,900 rpm Drill chuck: d= 10 mm Drilling depth: max. 38 mm Total drill length: 70 mm Drill diameter: max. 20 mm, 1 spindle up to 25 mm Spindle spacing: 32 mm (15 spindles) Spindle type: individually controllable Arrangement: Y-direction Horizontal drilling unit X-direction Drill spindles: 4 Drilling depth: max. 38 mm Drilling height Z-direction: 38 mm Rotational direction: counterclockwise Speed: 4,800 rpm Drill chuck: d= 10 mm Total drill length: 70 mm Drill diameter: max. 20 mm Spindles: individually controllable Horizontal drilling unit Y-direction Drill spindles: 2 Drilling depth: max. 38 mm Drilling height Z-direction: 38 mm Rotational direction: clockwise Speed: 4,800 rpm Drill chuck: d= 10 mm Total drill length: 70 mm Drill diameter: max. 20 mm Spindle type: individually controllable Router motor Drive power: 7.5/10 kW (S1/S6 duty cycle) Speed range (stepless): 750 - 18,000 rpm Cooling: liquid recirculation cooling Bearings: hybrid bearings (ceramic) Extraction: central Tool changer magazine Magazine positions: 30 tool positions Tool weight: max. 5 kg Tool change time: approx. 8 - 10 seconds MACHINE DETAILS Control: HOMATIC-2000 IPC Liquid recirculation cooling: 18,000 l/min Power: 7.5 / 10 kW S1/S6 operation EQUIPMENT Integrated CNC axis (360° rotational) Torque support Main spindle (motor power 7.5 / 10 kW, HSK F63) Workpiece support system 1,500 mm Workpiece console K-table 1,500 mm Gantry extension Y-direction 120 mm Compressed air connection strip with quick couplers Extraction hood for additional router motor Router 5 kW with Hydro quick-release clamping system Left-side safety guard with door Bsdpfxox Sqm Se Aktelp Safety tread mat 3,250 mm Control cabinet left Note: For further details regarding the machine’s equipment, please refer to the attached documents.

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2007, functionality: fully functional, working width: 1,050 mm, working height: 100 mm, working length: 3,250 mm, TECHNICAL DETAILS Working length: 3,250 mm Working width: 1,050 mm Working height: 100 mm Drilling unit Vertical drilling spindles: 18 Horizontal drilling spindles, X-axis: 4 Horizontal drilling spindles, Y-axis: 2 Tool stations: 4 Position: rear MACHINE DETAILS Milling spindle power: 7.5 kW Operating voltage: 400 V Mains frequency: 50 Hz EQUIPMENT Bodpo Aggu Asfx Aktolp Grooving circular saw for X and Y direction, 90° Rear tool changer CE marking

Condition: used, Weeke Venture 06M machining center Bsdpfo Ahiuhsx Aktjlp X-axis: 3130mm Y-axis: 1250mm Z-axis: 85mm 18 drilling heads (12 vertical and 6 horizontal) HSK milling spindle, 9kW 8-position tool magazine Grooving saw Machine available immediately. Loading included in the price.

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2017, functionality: fully functional, Specification: Vector Speed: X/Y= 50m/min Vector Speed: Z = 15m/min Workpiece length: min. 200 mm Workpiece length: max. 3050 mm Workpiece width: min. 70 mm Workpiece width: max. 850 mm Blodpfs Acw Hnex Aktop Workpiece Thickness min: 8mm Workpiece Thickness max: 56mm Drill Block with 13 Vertical Spindles Drill Block with 4 Horizontal drills in the X Direction Drill Block with 2 Horizontal drills in the Y Direction Grooving Saw X Direction Plausibility Check 5Kw Tool Change Spindle 4 Position Tool Changer Energy Saving Mode 400V 50Hz CE Marked

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2013, WEEKE OPTIMAT ABD 150, manufactured in 2013. CNC-controlled drilling, gluing, and dowel insertion machine for furniture components. Equipment: - 3 individually controlled vertical drilling spindles, spacing 32 mm - 3 individually controlled horizontal drilling spindles, spacing 32 mm - Gluing unit with adjustable glue quantity - Dowel insertion unit for standard dowels 8 x 30 mm / 8 x 35 mm - Automatic dowel feed via vibration feeder - 4 upper clamping cylinders - Left, right, and center workpiece stops Bedpe Afawbofx Aktelp - Automatic central oil lubrication - powerControl with woodWOP and ABDWork Workpiece range: Length 20–1,250 mm, width 100–800 mm, thickness 10–60 mm. The machine is located in the TEC-WOOD warehouse in Poland, approximately one hour from Frankfurt (Oder). The original photos show the machine in its previous location. Inspection, functional testing, and detailed information on the scope of delivery are available by appointment. Price on request. Offer includes free loading onto a truck. Transport is subject to separate agreement. High-quality machines sourced from Germany, Austria, or Switzerland. Consulting and sales handled by DS-Maschinen in Stuttgart. PC and software as shown in the original photos: woodWOP 6.1; Microsoft Windows XP Embedded, Version 2002, Service Pack 3; Beckhoff C9900-I374 v1.1. Counter photo: Total operating time 24,701.5 h, production time approx. 1,806 h. The values refer to different types of counters and the status of the available recording.

Condition: like new (used), Year of construction: 2016, machine/vehicle number: 0-250-11-2627, functionality: fully functional, input voltage: 400 V, input current: 29 A, input frequency: 50 Hz, type of input current: three-phase, workpiece length (max.): 3,050 mm, workpiece width (max.): 1,250 mm, workpiece height (max.): 80 mm, workpiece weight (max.): 60 kg, number of axes: 3, total height: 2,500 mm, total length: 2,500 mm, overall weight: 3,200 kg, table width: 4,740 mm, Equipment: CE marking, documentation/manual, HOMAG / WEEKE OPTIMAT BHX 200 CNC – Year of manufacture 2016 – HSK63 9 kW – Clamex-P – automatic tool changer – extensive equipment We are selling our HOMAG / WEEKE OPTIMAT BHX 200 vertical CNC machining center, manufactured in 2016. We purchased the machine directly from HOMAG Polska in 2018. Before the purchase, the machine was presented at a trade fair in Germany. It was exhibited with a very extensive range of equipment, which was one of the main reasons for our purchase. Originally, we planned to integrate the BHX 200 into our production line as part of further automation by connecting it to an industrial robot. Ultimately, we did not receive EU funding for this investment. At the same time, our current production volume is not large enough to utilize the full potential of this machine. This is also evident in the relatively low operating hours. For this reason, we have decided to sell the machine. The BHX 200 has served us reliably for many years and is still in continuous production today. We use it to manufacture furniture components from sheet materials. The machine operates very precisely and reliably and is ideally suited for flexible furniture production. This is not a basic BHX 200 with standard equipment. The machine has a very extensive configuration for drilling, milling, grooving, and hardware processing. Equipment: * Vertical drilling head V15 High Speed with 15 individually controlled spindles * 6 horizontal drilling spindles in the X-axis * 4 horizontal drilling spindles in the Y-axis * Additional vertical 3-spindle drilling head for hardware * HSK63 milling spindle * Power up to 7.5 / 9 kW * Speed range 1,250–24,000 rpm * Automatic tool changer * Automatic pick-up tool magazine with 4 positions for HSK63 tools or units * Special unit for Lamello Clamex-P * Unit for grooving in the X and Y axes * Optical workpiece control in X and Y * Automatically positioned workpiece clamps * Automatic adjustment to workpiece thickness * Integrated 1D/2D barcode system including wireless Datalogic barcode scanner and base station Workpiece dimensions: Length: 200–3,050 mm Width: 50–1,250 mm Thickness: 8–80 mm Maximum workpiece weight: 60 kg Control system and software: Blodpfx Akezzxzmetsp * HOMAG powerControl / powerTouch * 21.5" Full-HD touchscreen * woodWOP * DXF Import Basic * Tool database * Production list management * woodScan * Ethernet * UPS * ECO Plus * Climate control for the control cabinet The particular strength of this machine lies in its versatility. It is particularly suitable for manufacturers who produce many different types of furniture, sizes, and small to medium batch sizes. The combination of vertical and horizontal drilling, milling, grooving, Clamex-P processing, and automatic tool changer allows a very large number of machining steps to be performed on a single machine. The machine is available immediately. We are confident in its very good technical condition. It is still in use in our production. An inspection and demonstration of the machine in operation can be arranged by appointment. Location: Białystok, Poland.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2012, Used machine Nesting cell Year of construction: 2012 Gantry machine in Gnatry design Working area in X = 4300 mm Working area in Y = 2250 mm Working area in Z = 125 mm Travel speed X - Y - Z-axis 100 - 100 - 20 m/min with grid table and sacrificial plate with 3 vacuum pumps, each with 300 m³/h (one of them from 2026) Spindle motor 12 kW with torque support and C-axis with Homag Flex 5 tool interface Tool clamping system HSK-F 63 Tool changer with 14 tool positions Loading with vacuum lifter and roller conveyor Unloading with conveyor belt with manual label printer Safety device: stepping mat Bodpfx Asz Rrbqoktelp Caution! Drilling head is defective! Availability: approximately July 2027 Location: North Rhine-Westphalia

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2011, functionality: fully functional, feed length X-axis: 2,500 mm, feed length Y-axis: 1,000 mm, feed length Z-axis: 60 mm, Technical description of the machine The machine is designed for the precise machining of furniture and carpentry components using multi-spindle drilling technology. Thanks to its large working area and CNC control, it provides high productivity, repeatability, and accuracy in production. Operating parameters Maximum width of the workpiece: 2,500 mm Maximum working depth: 1,000 mm Maximum height of the workpiece: 60 mm Drilling grid: 32 mm Infinitely adjustable feed rate, allowing for optimal parameter adjustment to the type of material. Drilling system The machine is equipped with: Blsdjzi E Ebspfx Aktsp 7 vertical drilling heads 7 bottom-mounted drilling heads 2 horizontal drilling heads 2 drilling blocks per head, enabling the simultaneous execution of multiple operations. The positioning of the blocks and drilling heads is manual, while the drill feed is pneumatic, ensuring a fast and repeatable work cycle. Clamping system 7 clamping bridges guaranteeing stable clamping of the workpieces during the entire machining process. Control The machine operates under the control of: HOMAG POWER CONTROL HOMAG WOODWOP software, which enables intuitive programming of operations and integration with the production process. Electrical data Total connected power: 49 kW Additional information CE marking for conformity. The machine’s design ensures high drilling accuracy and reliability in the serial production of furniture components, fronts, bodies, and other wood and wood-based components. Thanks to its large working area and extensive drilling system, the machine is ideally suited for both single-item and large-scale production.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2008, machine/vehicle number: 0-250-19-0287, functionality: fully functional, input voltage: 415 V, input current: 125 A, input frequency: 50 Hz, type of input current: three-phase, workpiece length (max.): 1,500 mm, workpiece width (max.): 3,000 mm, workpiece height (max.): 60 mm, actuation type: electric, total height: 2,760 mm, total length: 5,280 mm, total width: 7,150 mm, overall weight: 18,000 kg, Equipment: CE marking, documentation/manual, The PROFI BHT 500 drilling center is equipped with 2 upper tool heads. Each head includes: a) two sets of vertical drills with a 32mm spacing: 17 spindles in the Y-axis, 15 spindles in the X-axis, and an additional 4 horizontal spindles in the Y-axis. Bedpfx Akszyp Tketslp b) an electric spindle unit with a power of 5kW and an ISO30 chuck. The machine also features two horizontal drilling units, each consisting of: two units equipped with 9 spindles with a 32mm spacing, and 2 glue guns for applying adhesive and furniture dowels. Belt conveyors at the infeed and outfeed points allow for manual loading of parts, and the machine can also be operated in a production line.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2002, Used Machine Year of Manufacture: 2002 Features and Technical Specifications - CNC machining center for drilling, milling, and grooving operations - HOMATIC 2000 control system with woodWOP for convenient, workpiece-oriented programming - Liquid-cooled milling spindle for consistent operating temperatures and reliable operation at high cutting rates - HSK 63 tool holder with high clamping force for precise machining - Automatic tool changer - Digital axis drives - Positioning accuracy according to the manufacturer: 0.03 mm - Travel speeds X/Y/Z: 80/60/20 m/min - Travel range of the Z-axis: 370 mm Bjdpo Af I Uwefx Aktelp - Maximum workpiece thickness: 100 m - Working length X/Y: 3,250/1,300 mm - Usable machining area depends on the tool and unit - Electrical power consumption: 14–22 kW, depending on configuration - Vacuum pump capacity according to brochure: starting at 100 m³/h - Compressed air connection: R 1/2 - Required compressed air pressure: 7 bar - Central exhaust connection: Ø 250 mm - Required extraction capacity: at least 4,950 m³/h Additional features: - Vertical drilling spindles, individually controllable - Horizontal drilling spindles in the X and Y directions - Groove saw unit - 8-position tool changer, moving in the X and Y directions, for short tool change paths - C-axis for freely programmable positioning of compatible units from 0–360° - Crosshair laser as a positioning aid for quick setup - Cantilever table with freely positionable, hose-less vacuum suction cups; alternatively, a base or matrix table - For the console table version: workpiece loading aids, lowerable stops, and electric vacuum monitoring - Weight: approx. 4,500 kg Machine is available for demonstration in 15528 Spreenhagen The connected SCHUKO VacoVent 750 dust collector is also available for purchase: samstag.gmbh/maschinenbestand/1333-5931

Condition: used, machine/vehicle number: 008744, X axis working area: 3050 mm Y axis working area: 850 mm Main Electrospindle power: 5 KW Number of controlled axes: 3 axes Blodpez Ig Ufefx Aktep Total number of drilling spindles: 19 Total number of tool changer positions: 4

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2008, functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 3,250 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 1,250 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 125 mm, rotational speed (max.): 24,000 rpm, Together with machine goes a lot of tools. Bledpoya Aimofx Aktep

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2003, functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 4,035 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 1,720 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 380 mm, Equipment: chip conveyor, documentation/manual, We are offering this ready-to-use Weeke Optimat BHC 550 machining center, year of manufacture 2003. Manufacturer: Weeke Model: Optimat BHC 550 Year of manufacture: 2003 Blodpox Nw Drofx Aktop Condition: ready for operation Machine type: machining center If you have any questions or need more information, please feel free to send us a message or give us a call.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2016, Vertical CNC drilling and machining center Manufacturer: Weeke Type: Optimat BHX Year of manufacture: 2016 Technical data - Working area X: max. 3,050 mm - Working area Y: 70,850 mm - Workpiece thickness Z: 12,60 mm - Workpiece weight: max. approx. 35 kg - Number of axes: 3 - Milling spindle: 5 kW - Milling spindle speed: max. 18,000 rpm - Tool holder: HSK-F63 or ETP 25, depending on the version - Tool change: automatic tool magazine - Tool positions: 4 - Vertical drilling spindles: 13 - Horizontal drilling spindles X: 4 - Horizontal drilling spindles Y: 2 Bjdpfxezy N E Hj Aktolp - Drilling unit: V13 High Speed - Drilling unit power: 2.3 kW - Drilling speed: 1,500 - 7,500 rpm - Max. drilling depth: approx. 38 mm - Drilling diameter: max. approx. 35 mm - Spindle spacing: 32 mm - Dado saw: in X-direction - Dado saw blade: approx. 100 mm - Workpiece transport: throughfeed system / transport chain - Workpiece clamping: collet gripper, vacuum-free clamping system - Control system: HOMAG powerControl / powerTouch - Software: HOMAG woodWOP - Total connected load: approx. 11.5 kW - Dust extraction connection: approx. 160 mm - Dust extraction air requirement: approx. 2170 m³/h - Weight: approx. 1500 kg - CE Note: The technical data and descriptions are copies of the original order confirmation. The information is provided for informational purposes only and is not binding.

Condition: used, machine/vehicle number: 007665, Position 1: Automatic Drilling Machine WEEKE-BST 503 + BST 507 Position 2: Automatic Drilling Machine WEEKE-BST 503 + BST 507 Blsdpfewuz Dgjx Aktop

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2002, functionality: fully functional, 4-axis machine with WOODWOP 4.5, from a carpentry workshop Working dimensions: X-axis 3,200 mm Y-axis 1,250 mm Work table: 6 pcs workpiece supports, each with 3 vacuum cups 4 pcs lifting rails for heavy workpieces 1 rear and 1 front stop row Vacuum pump 100 m³/h Tool arrangement: Main spindle 7.5 kW HSK 63 F with water cooling Speed 1,500 - 18,000 rpm Bedpfj Afh Izsx Aktjlp with C-axis / positioning axis for adapter tools Drilling unit with 18 vertical spindles 6 drilling spindles horizontally Dado saw unit fixed in the X-direction Tool changer magazine, 8 positions, mounted at the rear of the support, moving in the X-direction, for milling tools and units Control: HOMATIC 2000 with WOOD WOP 4.5 Safety equipment: ----- * Foot mat protection in front of the machine Without tools