Used Kalmar Dcg150-6 - Compact for sale (52,593)

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2017, operating hours: 15,799 h, load capacity: 12,000 kg, lifting height: 3,070 mm, free lift: 1,500 mm, fuel type: diesel, mast type: simplex, construction height: 3,200 mm, fork carriage width: 2,500 mm, empty load weight: 19,100 kg, total length: 5,000 mm, drive type: Diesel, construction width: 2,300 mm,

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2017, operating hours: 15,799 h, load capacity: 15,000 kg, lifting height: 3,070 mm, free lift: 1,500 mm, fuel type: diesel, mast type: duplex, construction height: 3,200 mm, fork carriage width: 2,500 mm, fork length: 1,600 mm, empty load weight: 19,100 kg, total length: 5,000 mm, drive type: Diesel, construction width: 2,300 mm,

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2013, operating hours: 17,204 h, load capacity: 15,000 kg, lifting height: 3,530 mm, fuel type: diesel, mast type: simplex, construction height: 3,420 mm, fork carriage width: 2,500 mm, fork length: 1,600 mm, empty load weight: 18,400 kg, total length: 5,055 mm, drive type: Diesel, construction width: 2,550 mm, Diesel forklift Load center: 600 Fork width: 200 mm Knsdpfx Ansz Ev Tlsuec Fork thickness: 80 mm Mast type: Standard Condition: Ready for use and fully functional Technical condition: very good Front tire type: Superelastic Front tire size: 12.00-20 Rear tire type: Superelastic Rear tire size: 12.00-20 Description: In addition to this Kalmar model, we have approximately 200 heavy-duty forklifts, compact forklifts, and side loaders in our Hamburg and Gdansk warehouses. Visit our website - sago-online. Lease purchase and financing options are available at favorable terms. We are also happy to buy your used vehicles outright, even if you do not purchase a vehicle from us. Our owner, Mr. Peter Sawitzki, will be happy to provide you with detailed information about this DCG 150-6. P.S.: Our forklift workshop specializes in repair, maintenance, overhaul, and custom fabrication for forklifts from 8 tons upwards. We would also be happy to offer your vehicle for sale on consignment. Side shifter, fork positioner Fork positioner opening range: 645/2310 mm Heater, full cab Camera

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2017, operating hours: 17,185 h, fuel type: diesel, gearing type: automatic, Equipment: cabin, head guard, * Year of manufacture: 2017 * Operating hours: 17,185 Kedpfx Aev H Nazenuenc * Diesel * Forks hydraulically adjustable in width ----Internal vehicle number 10625-----Errors & interim sale reserved WhatsApp support available! If you have any questions about the vehicle or need further information, feel free to contact us easily via WhatsApp Whatsapp Whatsapp

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2022, operating hours: 3,126 h, load capacity: 15,000 kg, lifting height: 4,000 mm, load center: 600 mm, fuel type: diesel, mast type: duplex, construction height: 3,695 mm, motor manufacturer: Volvo, DGUV certified until: 08/2026, fork carriage width: 2,500 mm, fork length: 2,000 mm, fork width: 250 mm, fork thickness: 70 mm, turning radius (outer): 4,180 mm, front tire type: cushion tires (black), rear tire type: cushion tires (black), total height: 2,920 mm, total length: 4,725 mm, total width: 2,540 mm, Equipment: CE marking, air conditioning, cabin, lighting, DCG150-6 Year of manufacture: 2022 Operating hours: 3,126 Stabau attachment S11-ZVKGI 150-S with integrated hydraulic fork adjustment Knodpfxox Upz Te Anuec Fork blades 2,000 x 250 x 70 mm SE tires 12.00 x 20

Condition: good (used), machine/vehicle number: 19733, Year of construction: 2014, load capacity: 5,500 kg, lifting height: 3,520 mm, mast type: duplex, fork carriage width: 150 mm, fork length: 2,400 mm, total length: 3,430 mm, total width: 1,600 mm, operation weight: 7,243 kg, additional equipment features: Battery indicator, Front mud guards, Manual sliding cabin, Rear mud guards, Weight system, Warning triangle, Equipment: lighting, Kalmar KALMAR ECG55-6 from Uniktruck Wheel type – Drive wheel: Pneumatic Wheel type – Steering wheel: Pneumatic Wheel size – Drive wheel: 300-15 Ksdpfx Ansyuhibjuenc Wheel size – Steering wheel: 225/75-15

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2005, An industrial Sartorius crossflow membrane filtration system is available. Membrane modules: 6, Membrane age: approx. 3.5 years, Filtration capacity range (white wine): 5000l-6000l/h, Machine dimensions X/Y/Z: approx. 2400mm/1300mm/2150mm. Documentation available. An on-site inspection is possible. Knodpfx Anjzmh Sxsuec

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2019, operating hours: 6,799 h, load capacity: 14,000 kg, lifting height: 4,020 mm, fuel type: electric, mast type: duplex, construction height: 3,515 mm, fork carriage width: 2,450 mm, fork length: 2,400 mm, empty load weight: 21,340 kg, total length: 4,650 mm, drive type: Elektro, construction width: 2,520 mm, Heavy-duty forklift - electric Load center: 600 Fork width: 200 mm Fork thickness: 65 mm Mast type: Duplex Condition: Ready for use and fully functional Technical condition: very good Front tire type: Superelastic Front tire size: 12.00-20, non-chalking Rear tire type: Superelastic Rear tire size: 12.00-20, non-chalking Battery voltage: 120V Battery capacity: 860Ah Battery year of manufacture: 2019 Description: In addition to this Kalmar model, we have approximately 200 heavy-duty forklifts, compact forklifts, and side loaders in our Hamburg and Gdansk warehouses. Visit our website - sago-online. Lease-purchase and financing options are available at favorable terms. We would also be happy to purchase your used equipment, even if you do not purchase a vehicle from us. Our owner, Mr. Peter Sawitzki, will be happy to provide you with detailed advice on this ECG140-6. P.S.: Our forklift master workshop specializes in repair, maintenance, overhaul, and special modifications for forklifts of 8 tons and above. We would also be happy to offer consignment sales for your vehicle. Side shifter, fork positioner Knjdpfx Ansz Ewd Sjuoc Fork positioner opening range: 575 / 2320 mm Heater, full cab, air conditioning, scale, Camera

Condition: good (used), functionality: fully functional, operating hours: 4,300 h, empty load weight: 16,000 kg, Manufacturer: KALMAR Type: DCE100-6 Year: 2010 Capacity (t): 12 ton Ksdpfxez Aqkvj Anuenc Own Weight: 16 ton Lifting height: 3 m Working Hours: 4,299 h Equipment: Full cabin with heater Fork tine extension: 2 m

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2007, load capacity: 6,000 kg, lifting height: 3,500 mm, fuel type: electric, mast type: simplex, construction height: 2,600 mm, fork carriage width: 2,000 mm, fork length: 1,380 mm, empty load weight: 10,273 kg, total length: 3,730 mm, drive type: Elektro, construction width: 2,000 mm, Electric 4-wheel forklift Load center: 600 Knodpfx Asz Ewb Ronuoc Fork width: 220 mm Fork thickness: 70 mm Mast type: Standard Condition: Ready for use and fully functional Technical condition: normal Front tire type: Superelastic Front tire size: 8.25-15 Rear tire type: Superelastic Rear tire size: 8.25-15 Battery voltage: 80V Battery Ah: 1240Ah Battery year of manufacture: 2017 Description: In addition to this Kalmar model, we have approximately 200 heavy-duty forklifts, compact forklifts, and side loaders in our Hamburg and Gdansk warehouses. Visit our website – sago-online. Lease-purchase and financing options are available from us at favorable terms. We are also happy to buy your used forklifts outright, even if you do not purchase a vehicle from us. Our owner, Mr. Peter Sawitzki, will be pleased to provide you with detailed advice on this ECE60-6. P.S.: Our forklift workshop specializes in repair, maintenance, overhaul, and custom builds for forklifts from 8 tons upwards. We will also gladly display your vehicle for consignment sale. Side shift, fork positioner Fork positioner opening range: 470/1980 mm; Telescopic forks: 1380 / 2400 mm Heater, full cabin

Condition: new, functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2025, overall weight: 750 kg, maximum load weight: 700 kg, Equipment: lighting, Suchen Sie nach einem gemütlichen Wochenendhaus, einem Büro im Garten oder einem zusätzlichen Raum für Ihre Familie? Unser einzigartiges Modell bietet die perfekte Lösung. Mit einem vierseitigen Dach und einer gehängten Metallfassade, die eine Lebensdauer von 30+ Jahren hat, bietet unser mobiles Haus höchste Qualität. Die hochwertige Aluminiumfenster sorgen für eine hervorragende Ästhetik und Funktionalität. Im Inneren erwartet Sie ein selbstnivellierender Holzboden, der mit Harz beschichtet ist, sowie ein Badezimmer mit Harz behandelten Holzplatten. Die Wände und Decken bestehen aus robusten Sperrholzplatten. Unser mobiles Haus verfügt über hochwertige Innentüren und modulares Beleuchtungssystem. Die Küche ist mit eingebauten Schränken und Geräten ausgestattet, während das Schlafzimmer über eingebaute Kleiderschränke verfügt. Das mobile Haus bietet hochwertige Schlüssel und Steckdosen sowie eine ausgezeichnete Boden- und Dachdämmung. Die Bodenisolierung ist aus Mineralwolle und beträgt 15 cm, die Dachisolierung 18 cm und die Außenwandisolierung 15 cm. Kodspxnpaspfx Anuonc Das Haus ist bereits für die Installation von Außenkameras, Klimaanlagen und Lüftungsanlagen vorbereitet. Es gibt Anschlüsse für eine Waschmaschine und Platz für einen Kühlschrank, eine eingebaute Fritteuse, einen Herd und einen Dunstabzug. Zahlreiche Steckdosen sind in der Küche, im Wohnzimmer, im Schlafzimmer und im Badezimmer vorhanden. Unser mobiles Haus bietet auch die Möglichkeit zur Installation von Photovoltaiksystemen auf dem Dach, um nachhaltige Energie zu nutzen. Lieferbar in 7-14 Tage! Verpassen Sie nicht die Gelegenheit, Ihr Traumhaus zu finden! Kontaktieren Sie uns, um weitere Informationen zu erhalten und Ihre Bestellung aufzugeben.

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2024, operating hours: 132 h, load capacity: 18,000 kg, lifting height: 4,000 mm, free lift: 2,000 mm, fuel type: diesel, mast type: duplex, construction height: 3,695 mm, power: 168 kW (228.42 HP), fork carriage width: 2,500 mm, fork length: 2,400 mm, empty load weight: 23,140 kg, total length: 5,065 mm, drive type: Diesel, construction width: 2,540 mm, Diesel forklift Load center: 600 Fork width: 200 mm Fork thickness: 100 mm ISO class: Terminal West Mast type: Duplex Transmission: ZF 3WG171 Ksdpfx Anjz Ewg Hsusnc Condition: Ready for use and fully functional Technical condition: very good Front tire type: Pneumatic Front tire size: 12.00-20 Rear tire type: Pneumatic Rear tire size: 12.00-20 Description: In addition to this Kalmar model, we have approximately 200 heavy-duty forklifts, compact forklifts, and side loaders in our warehouses in Hamburg and Gdansk. Visit our website - sago-online. Lease-to-own and financing options at favorable terms are always possible for us. We will also gladly purchase your used equipment, even if you do not purchase a vehicle from us. Our owner, Mr. Peter Sawitzki, will be happy to provide you with detailed advice on this DCG180-6. P.S.: Our forklift workshop specializes in repair, maintenance, overhaul, and custom modifications for forklifts from 8 tons upwards. We will also gladly display your vehicle for consignment sale. Side shifter, fork positioner Fork carriage with central leveling; fork positioner opening range: 600 / 2355 mm Rear work light, front work light, heater, full cabin, air conditioning, full free lift, CE certificate, scale, Central lubrication system; 1 rear-view camera on the roof with monitor in the cabin, 1 camera in the mast in combination with the rear-view camera, tire pressure monitoring; engine heater 220 V; Grammer Actimo XL air-suspended driver's seat including seat heating, Forrex fire extinguishing system.

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2016, fuel type: electric, Kalmar ECF 70-6 Open cabin. Cushion wheels. Lifting height: 400 cm. Kedpfx Aoh Awlxsnuonc Construction height: 292 cm. Mast: Dublex. Year: 2016 Key on hours: 15.247 Fork possisioner and side shift. Fork length: 120 cm 80V battery. Battery will replaced with new before sale. Incl charger, 400 V. Transport can be arranged. Dealer price is without battery.

Condition: good (used), For sale: professional Vision Engineering Lynx Compact X6 stereo microscope, manufactured in the UK. This is a modern eyepiece-free microscope, providing a spatial 3D image without the need to place eyes against eyepieces – offering exceptional comfort for quality control and precision assembly tasks. Technical specifications: • Manufacturer: Vision Engineering Ltd. (UK) • Model: Lynx Compact X6 • Magnification: 6× (Compact X6 objective) • Type: stereo, eyepiece-free • Illumination: integrated LED in the base • Power supply: 230 V Knsdpfx Anez Sli Eeuoc • Head with focus and height adjustment • Serial number: MFS 11572 • DGUV safety inspection – current safety test certification Condition: • Used item, optics are clean, mechanics fully operational. • Damaged upper cover of the plastic element (visible in photos) – does not affect operation or image quality. • Illumination is fully functional. • Device tested and ready for use. Applications: Laboratories, quality control, electronics, optics, and medical industries. Excellent for precision work, SMD soldering, PCB inspection, micromachining, and micromechanics.

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2014, operating hours: 16,822 h, load capacity: 7,000 kg, lifting height: 5,030 mm, free lift: 2,400 mm, fuel type: electric, mast type: duplex, construction height: 3,480 mm, fork carriage width: 2,000 mm, fork length: 1,250 mm, empty load weight: 10,341 kg, total length: 3,720 mm, drive type: Elektro, construction width: 1,820 mm, Electric 4-wheel forklift Load center: 600 Kjdpfx Ajz Evtrsnuonc Fork width: 200 mm Fork thickness: 60 mm Mast type: Duplex Condition: Ready for use and fully functional Technical condition: very good Front tire type: Superelastic Front tire size: 355/65-15 Rear tire type: Superelastic Rear tire size: 8.25-15 Battery voltage: 80V Battery capacity: 1240Ah Battery year of manufacture: 2016 Description: In addition to this Kalmar model, we have approximately 200 heavy-duty forklifts, compact forklifts, and side loaders in our warehouses in Hamburg and Gdansk. Visit our website - sago-online. Lease purchase and financing at favorable terms are always possible for us. We are also happy to buy your used equipment outright, even if you do not purchase a vehicle from us. Our owner, Mr. Peter Sawitzki, will be happy to provide you with detailed advice on this ECF 70-6. P.S.: Our forklift master workshop specializes in repair, maintenance, overhaul, and special modifications for forklifts from 8 tons and up. We would also be happy to offer your vehicle for sale on consignment. Side shifter, fork positioner, Heater, full cabin, full free lift.

Condition: like new (used), Year of construction: 2004, operating hours: 6,090 h, load capacity: 8,000 kg, lifting height: 5,700 mm, fuel type: electric, mast type: duplex, construction height: 4,100 mm, Manufacturer + model: KALMAR ECE 80 - 6 Mast: 2F5750 ID: 24051.5020 Category: Used Mast: 2F5750 Forks: 2400 mm Lowered height: 4100 mm Lifting height: 5750 mm Capacity: 8000 kg Year: 2004 Operating hours: 6090 hrs Knjdpfxezv H Tme Anuoc Battery: 80 V / 1550 - NEW - Mfg. 09/2024 Options: - FULL cabin - LINDE steering - Duo pedal!!! - Spreader / S.s. - Spotlight - Duplex FFL mast - Completely NEW -> FEM 4 A - FORKS

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2007, operating hours: 9,763 h, load capacity: 8,000 kg, lifting height: 6,000 mm, fuel type: gas, mast type: simplex, construction height: 4,185 mm, empty load weight: 11,700 kg, total length: 3,850 mm, drive type: Treibgas, construction width: 1,600 mm, LPG Forklift Load Centre: 600 mm Mast Type: Standard Condition: Ready for use and fully functional Technical Condition: Very good Front Tyres Type: Superelastic Front Tyres Size: 355/65-15 Rear Tyres Type: Superelastic Rear Tyres Size: 8.25-15 Description: In addition to this Kalmar model, we also have around 200 heavy duty forklifts, compact forklifts, counterbalance forklifts & sideloaders available at our warehouses in Hamburg and Gdańsk. Visit our website - sago-online. Leasing and financing on attractive terms are always possible for us. We are also happy to purchase your used machine outright, even if you do not acquire a vehicle from us. Our owner, Mr. Peter Sawitzki, will be happy to advise you in detail about this GCE80-6. P.S.: Our master workshop for forklifts specialises in repairs, servicing, overhauls and custom modifications for forklifts from 8 t. We can also offer to display your vehicle for commission-based sale at our premises. Knodpfx Anez Evuiouoc Heater, Full Cabin,

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2021, Grader Knodpfozzq Ifjx Anusc Make: Marel Model: CG600 Compact Grader 2021 6 Station Little use.

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2013, operating hours: 15,255 h, load capacity: 7,000 kg, lifting height: 4,300 mm, fuel type: electric, mast type: simplex, construction height: 3,020 mm, fork carriage width: 1,600 mm, fork length: 2,400 mm, empty load weight: 10,284 kg, total length: 3,720 mm, drive type: Elektro, construction width: 1,820 mm, Electric 4-wheel forklift Load center: 600 mm Fork width: 140 mm Fork thickness: 60 mm Mast type: Standard Condition: Ready for operation and fully functional Knsdpfxsz Ev N Hs Anuec Technical condition: Very good Front tires type: Superelastic Front tires size: 355/65-15, non-marking Rear tires type: Superelastic Rear tires size: 8.25-15, non-marking Battery voltage: 80V Battery capacity: 1240Ah Battery year: 2022 Description: In addition to this Kalmar model, we have around 200 heavy-duty forklifts, compact forklifts, forklifts & sideloaders in stock at our warehouses in Hamburg and Gdansk. Visit our website - sago-online. Lease-purchase & financing under attractive conditions are always possible. We are also happy to purchase your used vehicle outright, even if you do not buy a vehicle from us. Our owner, Mr. Peter Sawitzki, will be pleased to provide you with comprehensive advice on this ECF 70-6. P.S.: Our master forklift workshop specializes in repair, maintenance, overhaul, and special construction for forklifts from 8 tons upwards. We are also happy to list your vehicle with us for consignment sale. Side-shift, fork positioner, Fork positioner opening range: 495 / 1465 mm Heater, full cabin

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2016, operating hours: 21,869 h, load capacity: 12,000 kg, lifting height: 3,300 mm, free lift: 1,650 mm, fuel type: diesel, mast type: duplex, construction height: 3,300 mm, fork carriage width: 2,500 mm, fork length: 1,800 mm, empty load weight: 19,900 kg, total length: 4,700 mm, drive type: Diesel, construction width: 2,600 mm, Diesel forklift Load center: 600 Fork width: 200 mm Fork thickness: 75 mm Ksdpfjz Evucjx Anuonc Mast type: Duplex Condition: Ready for use and fully functional Technical condition: very good Front tire type: Superelastic Front tire size: 12.00-20 Rear tire type: Superelastic Rear tire size: 12.00-20 Description: In addition to this Kalmar model, we have approximately 200 heavy-duty forklifts, compact forklifts, and side loaders in our Hamburg and Gdansk warehouses. Visit our website - sago-online. Lease-purchase and financing options at favorable terms are always possible for us. We would also be happy to buy your used forklift outright, even without you purchasing a vehicle from us. Our owner, Mr. Peter Sawitzki, will be happy to provide you with detailed advice on this DCG120-6. P.S.: Our forklift workshop specializes in repair, maintenance, overhaul, and custom design for forklifts from 8 tons and up. We would also be happy to offer your vehicle for consignment sale in our showroom. Side shifter, fork positioner Fork positioner opening range: 625 / 2275 mm Heater, full cabin, full free lift

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2020, operating hours: 200 h, ABB IRB360 Picker + IRC5 Compact controller, 2nd generation + TPU, as new DEVELOPMENT OF GSG ROBOTICS Knedpjz Taggsfx Anujc GSG Robotics GmbH, founded in 2005 in Gütersloh, has been based in Marl since 2015 and offers a comprehensive service area for robot maintenance and repair. Over the years, we have evolved into a holistic partner for all matters related to industrial robots and automation technology. We are a full-service provider for the two well-known robot manufacturers, ABB and Fanuc.

Condition: good (used), machine/vehicle number: 3691, Year of construction: 2008, load capacity: 8,000 kg, lifting height: 5,000 mm, mast type: duplex, fork carriage width: 150 mm, fork length: 2,400 mm, total length: 3,834 mm, total width: 2,000 mm, operation weight: 12,000 kg, Kalmar ECD80-6 from Uniktruck Ksdpfx Anezu Tlgouonc Wheel type – Drive wheel: Supersoft Wheel type – Steering wheel: Supersoft Wheel size – Drive wheel: 8.25-15 Wheel size – Steering wheel: 8.25-15

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2023, operating hours: 152 h, load capacity: 25,000 kg, lifting height: 3,695 mm, free lift: 1,750 mm, fuel type: diesel, mast type: duplex, construction height: 3,670 mm, power: 185 kW (251.53 HP), fork carriage width: 3,000 mm, fork length: 2,400 mm, empty load weight: 37,300 kg, total length: 6,150 mm, drive type: Diesel, construction width: 3,050 mm, Diesel forklift Load center: 1200 Fork width: 250 mm Fork thickness: 110 mm ISO class: Terminal West Mast type: Duplex Transmission: Dana TE14000 Condition: Ready for use and fully functional Technical condition: very good Front tire type: Pneumatic Front tire size: 14.00-24 Rear tire type: Pneumatic Ksdpfjz D Ni Dox Anujnc Rear tire size: 14.00-24 Description: In addition to this Kalmar model, we have approximately 200 heavy-duty forklifts, compact forklifts, reach trucks, and side loaders in our Hamburg and Gdansk warehouses. Visit our website – sago-online. Lease purchase and financing on favorable terms are always possible for us. We would also be happy to buy your used forklift, even if you do not purchase a vehicle from us. Our owner, Mr. Peter Sawitzki, will be happy to provide you with detailed advice on this DCG250-12S. P.S.: Our forklift workshop specializes in repair, maintenance, overhaul, and custom construction for forklifts from 8 tons upwards. We would also be happy to display your vehicle in our showroom for consignment sales. Side shifter, fork positioner, Fork carriage with central leveling / Centre Levelling Rear work light, front work light, heater, full cabin, air conditioning, full free lift, CE certificate, Central lubrication system; 1 rear camera on the roof with monitor in the cabin, 1 camera in the mast in combination with the rear camera, tire pressure monitoring; engine heater 220 V; Grammer Actimo XL air-suspended driver’s seat incl. seat heating.

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 04310, Year of construction: 1991, operating hours: 18,226 h, load capacity: 6,000 kg, fuel type: diesel, overall weight: 12,050 kg, Kalmar side loaders with double mast. Knjdpfxszc Upke Anuoc Load capacity up to 6000 kg.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2019, Number of spindles 6 St. Working width 230 mm Working height 150 mm Length of the planing table 2000 mm Feed motor 4 kW Feed speed 6-24 m/min. LEADERMAC Type LMC 623 COMPACT Four-Sided Moulder ----- Sold on behalf of a client! Working width (min. – max.): 15 – 230 mm Working height (min. – max.): 10 – 150 mm Width and height are motorized/controlled 6 spindles, spindle diameter 40 mm, 6,000 rpm Spindle configuration ----- Spindle 1: bottom Ksdpfxe Adfcts Anuonc Spindle 2: right Spindle 3: left Spindle 4: top Spindle 5: top Spindle 6: bottom Technical specifications provided by the manufacturer – no guarantee!