Used Nutek Ntm410Dt-1060-1(S) for sale (1,05,938)

Year of construction: 2016, condition: like new (used), Good working condition. Comes with controller and electronics. Please check out our other listings as well. Godpfx Aeh Rknmop Dsbu

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2024, travel distance X-axis: 780 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 600 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 650 mm, controller manufacturer: FANUC, controller model: 0iMF, table load: 700 kg, overall weight: 6,800 kg, spindle speed (max.): 8,000 rpm, spindle motor power: 7,500 W, tool weight: 6,000 g, number of axes: 4, This 4-axis Finetech SMV 1060 H3L was manufactured in 2024. It features an impressive X-axis travel of 780 mm, Y-axis travel of 600 mm, and Z-axis travel of 650 mm. The machine includes a robust table size of 1100 x 600 mm and a maximum table load of 700 kg. If you are looking to get high-quality machining capabilities, consider the Finetech SMV 1060 H3L vertical machining centre. Contact us for further details. • Structure: Cast iron structure; roller linear guideways • Control: FANUC 0iMF; 10.5" monitor; remote electronic handwheel • Table: 1100 x 600 mm; 5 T-slots; T-slot size 18 mm; T-slot pitch 100 mm • Distances: Spindle nose to table 130–780 mm • Spindle: taper No. 40 • Tool changer (ATC): Tool holder taper ISO40 DIN69871; 24-position magazine; max tool Ø 80 mm; max tool length 300 mm; bidirectional selection; tool-to-tool 3 s; chip-to-chip 6 s • Feedrates: Rapids X/Y/Z 36/36/32 m/min; working feedrate X/Y/Z 1–12,000 mm/min • Coolant/utilities: Coolant tank 380 L; working pressure 4 bar; total installed power 25 kVA • Dimensions & weight: 2900 x 2500 x 2800 mm • Standard features: Rigid tapping; full safety enclosure; random bidirectional ATC arm; 24-position tool magazine; oil spindle cooling unit; Z-axis gas balancing system; automatic guide lubrication; electrical cabinet heat exchanger; working area lamp; service keys; transformer; manuals and CE declaration Additional equipment • Chip conveyor (screw type) • Optional 40-tool chain-type magazine: BT40/CAT40; max tool Ø 75 mm with adjacent pockets occupied, Ø 152 mm with adjacent pockets empty; max tool weight 8 kg; max total tool weight 160 kg; air pressure required 5–6 kg/cm² Technical Specification Taper Size ISO 40 Gbsdpfoy Tlpwsx Ap Dou

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2012, functionality: fully functional, overall weight: 16,500 kg, total width: 2,185 mm, total length: 5,563 mm, total height: 2,195 mm, Specification: Maximum sheet size: 740 x 1060 mm Minimum sheet size: 330 x 400 mm Maximum cutting force: 300 tons Mechanical speed, up to 8,000 sheets/hour Materials processed: Paper and cardboard: 0.1 - 1.5 mm Corrugated cardboard up to B-flute Equipment: - Steel feeding plate - Lifting suction cups - Transport suction cups - Adjustment of brush and roller position on the delivery table, using a single knob - Touchscreen monitor mounted on the machine - Pneumatic stops at the front guides - Laser sensors on the front guides - Modification of sensors for transparent materials - Pneumatic closing of the frame and die plate - APC System – Automatic Pressure Control System APC1 - automatic control of cutting pressure, allowing for maintaining the same pressure during the die-cutting/punching process. Possibility to set tonnage tolerance and control the sheet count after a certain number of pieces. - Programmable safety clutch for exceeding cutting force - pneumatic - Stabilizing air blast in the cutting section, increasing precision and cutting speed for thin papers - Quick-change tool system in the stripping section – Punching Metal (upper and lower stripping fingers) - Europing Centering System – die-cutting and stripping zone - Automatic non-stop stacking system, with a curtain and programmable number of sheets per stack - Upper curtain air blast in the stacking zone - Slip sheet inserter with batch counter, located in the stacking zone - Spare gripper carriage – 1 unit - Power transformer Delivery time: immediately after acceptance of the commercial terms and payment of the financial amount. Godpfx Aszt Nbzep Dobu This announcement has been automatically translated. Translation errors are possible.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2006, functionality: fully functional, We offer this used Crosland REVOTEC 1060 SR Young Shin 106SR with stripping unit, year of construction 2006. Godpfx Apsz Hlgdj Dobu Manufacturer: Crosland Model: REVOTEC 1060 SR Serial number: 06006 Manufacture date: November 2006 12 million impressions Automatic grip edge removal Max sheet size 760 x 1060mm If you have any questions or need more information, feel free to send us a message or give us a call.

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2013, Traverses X Y Z: 1020 x 610 x 620mm, Gsdpfx Aez Eh Nljp Dobu Table size 1200mm x 600mm, spindle speed 12000rpm, spindle motor power 14.7kW, Siemens 840DSL control with Shopmill, 43M/min rapids, Spindle taper BT40, 30 station ATC, through spindle coolant, swarf conveyor.

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2020, functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 1,000 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 600 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 650 mm, feed length X-axis: 1,000 mm, feed length Y-axis: 600 mm, feed length Z-axis: 650 mm, feed rate X-axis: 36 m/min, feed rate Y-axis: 36 m/min, feed rate Z-axis: 36 m/min, nominal power (apparent): 35 kVA, torque: 70 Nm, controller manufacturer: Siemens, controller model: SINUMERIK 828D (z interfejsem ShopMill), workpiece length (max.): 1,000 mm, workpiece width (max.): 600 mm, workpiece height (max.): 780 mm, workpiece weight (max.): 1,000 kg, total height: 2,800 mm, total length: 2,900 mm, total width: 2,100 mm, table width: 600 mm, table length: 1,160 mm, table load: 1,000 kg, rotational speed (max.): 10,000 rpm, overall weight: 6,800 kg, spindle speed (max.): 10,000 rpm, coolant supply: 20 bar, distance table center to spindle nose: 780 mm, spindle motor power: 11,000 W, number of spindles: 1, tool length: 300 mm, tool diameter: 80 mm, tool weight: 7,000 g, input voltage: 400 V, type of input current: three-phase, Equipment: USB port, cabin, centralized greasing system, chip conveyor, documentation/manual, lighting, rotational speed infinitely variable, type plate available, TBI VC 1060 Smart Mill New Line – Vertical CNC Machining Center We have for sale a vertical CNC machining center, the TBI VC 1060 Smart Mill New Line, equipped with a Siemens 828D + ShopMill control system and a 15-inch touch panel. The machine features an SK40 spindle up to 10,000 rpm, a 24-position tool magazine with a fast, dual-arm tool changer, and digital axis drives. Linear guides in the X/Y/Z axes provide rapid traverse rates up to 36 m/min. Key technical data: - Control system: Siemens 828D + ShopMill Gbsdpez Iymzsfx Ap Deu - Operator panel: 15" touch panel - X-axis travel: 1000 mm - Y-axis travel: 600 mm - Z-axis travel: 650 mm - Table surface: 1100 × 500 mm - Max. table load: 1000 kg - T-slots: 5 × 18 × 100 mm - Spindle nose to table distance: 140–790 mm - Spindle taper: SK40 - Max. spindle speed: 10,000 rpm - Spindle drive power S1/S6: 11/23 kW - Spindle drive: AC, belt drive - Rapid traverse X/Y/Z: 36/36/36 m/min - Positioning accuracy: ±0.005 mm - Positioning repeatability: ±0.003 mm Tool magazine - Type: drum type - Number of positions: 24 - Tool changer: fast, dual-arm - Max. tool diameter: 80 mm - Max. diameter with free adjacent position: 150 mm - Max. tool length: 300 mm - Max. tool weight: 7 kg Equipment - Siemens 828D + ShopMill control system with 15" touch panel - Threading without a compensating chuck - Spindle-through coolant at 20 bar - Spindle temperature stabilization - Spindle air blow system - Tool cooling with air and coolant - Linear roller guides for X/Y/Z axes - Telescopic guides for X/Y/Z axes - Pneumatic counterbalancing for the Z-axis - Digital axis drives - Oil skimmer - Data transmission V.24 / RS232-C / USB - Manual spray guns for rinsing the work area - Electrical cabinet cooling - Central lubrication system - Lower chip flushing system - Integrated chip conveyor with cart Cooling system - Tank capacity: 300 l - Flow rate: 200 l/min - Spindle-through cooling: 20 bar Dimensions and weight - Machine dimensions (L × W × H): 2900 × 2100 × 2800 mm - Weight: 6800 kg - Total power consumption: 35 kVA Year of manufacture: 2020 Location: Krakow Price: 45,000 EUR The machine is available for sale. Additional photos, technical documentation, and detailed information regarding equipment and terms of sale can be provided.

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 1978, Pressure: 250 t Throat depth: 360 mm Table size: 1250 x 630 mm Table diameter: 250 mm Ram clamping surface: 850 x 450 mm Installation height: 800 mm Piston stroke: up to 500 mm Piston diameter: 400/360 mm Ram speed downward: 200 mm/sec Gbsdpfoz Iyy Ijx Ap Dou Ram speed upward: 110 mm/sec Total power requirement: 20.5 kW Machine weight approx.: 8 t

Year of construction: 2017, condition: excellent (used), functionality: fully functional, STANDARD FEATURES - REJECT CONVEYOR • Reject, inspect, and by-pass modes selectable. • Conveyor width adjustment using a hand crank. Gjdpfx Apozy N Rpj Debu • Controlled by a PLC. • CE certified. OPTIONS • Non-standard conveyor/segment lengths • Electrical conveyor width adjustment. • Automatic conveyor width adjustment • Additional lift positions for extra buffer capacity • Inspection interval counter • Light fixture • Alarm buzzer. • Other options available upon request SPECIFICATION Transfer height 950 mm ± 25 mm* Colour RAL 9002* Flow direction Left to right* Fixed rail Front* Machine interface SMEMA* Conveyor concept ESD belt Belt speed Variable 2-14 m/min. PCB edge support 3 mm Component clearance Bottom 30 mm, top + bottom = 65 mm max. (belt to belt) Power supply 230 VAC/50 Hz/1 Ph Power consumption 150 VA max. Air supply 4-6 bar Air consumption 10 ltr/min max. Machine L x W x H (mm) 1000 x 875 x 980 Weight (Kg) 95 PCB Length (mm) 80 - 460* PCB Width (mm) 50 - 460* Fixed rail to front (A) (mm) 186

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2021, operating hours: 2,763 h, pressing force: 61 t, total width: 1,580 mm, total height: 2,545 mm, overall weight: 5,400 kg, product length (max.): 2,100 mm, number of axes: 7, This 7-axis Baykal APHS 21060 press brake was manufactured in 2021. It features a pressing force of 60 tons and a bending length of 2100 mm, providing robust performance for various applications. The machine includes a throat depth of 410 mm and a stroke of ram measuring 210 mm. If you are looking to get high-quality bending capabilities, consider the Baykal APHS 21060 press brake we have for sale. Contact us for further details. • Performance and capacity: • Distance between columns: 1600 mm • Throat depth: 410 mm • Daylight opening: 475 mm • Stroke of ram: 210 mm • Table width: 60 mm • X-axis travel: 1000 mm • Backgauge axis: Y1, Y2, X, R, Z1, Z2 + crawling • Hydraulics and drive: • Hydraulic pressure: 265 bar • Oil capacity: 140 liters • Main motor power: 10.3 kW • Installed power: 11 kW • Power supply: 400 V / 50 Hz / 3 Ph • Other: • Maximum stopping time: 80 ms Additional equipment Godpfxszdktms Ap Debu • Upper tool, 57 kg • Lower tool, 87 kg Technical Specification Bending Length 2100 mm

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2021, machine/vehicle number: 8398, functionality: fully functional, power: 15 kW (20.39 HP), input voltage: 400 V, input current: 32 A, input frequency: 50 Hz, type of input current: three-phase, grinding belt width: 150 mm, grinding belt length: 2,500 mm, actuation type: mechanical, total height: 2,200 mm, total length: 3,800 mm, total width: 2,000 mm, Equipment: CE marking, documentation/manual, Löser external cylindrical grinding machine for grinding the outer circumference of pipes 1.3. Technical data Dimensions: Width approx. 3.8 m | Height approx. 2.2 m | Depth approx. 2.0 m Power supply Electrical connection: 3 x 400 V AC | 50 Hz Total power: 15 kW Fuse: 32 A Pneumatic connection Main supply: 6 bar | approx. 5 m3/h Supply for air nozzles: 6 bar | approx. 30 m3/h Workpieces that can be processed Pipes made of steel or stainless steel with the following dimensions: Length: from 10 mm to 100 mm Diameter: from 50 mm to 1000 mm Grinding station type L Number of grinding stations: 1 Grinding mode: Wet machining Grinding technology: Grinding with a grinding belt and contact wheel | Grinding with a grinding wheel Cutting speed: continuously adjustable | max. 30 m/s Power: 7.5 kW per station Current consumption: maximum 14 amps per station Dimensions of grinding belt: Width 150 mm | Length 2,500 mm Dimensions of contact wheel: Width 150 mm | Diameter 400 mm Dimensions of grinding wheel: Width 150 mm | Diameter 400 mm Belt tension: Pneumatic | manually adjustable Station positioning: Manual Workpiece transport Godpfozvn Urox Ap Dsbu Workpiece support: V-groove | Angle 120° Height adjustment of V-groove: Manual Feed devices: 1 Positioning of feed device: Manual Feed speed: approx. 1 m/min to 10 m/min; depending on the workpiece diameter Coolant management The machine is prepared for wet machining. A Stevens paper band filter, type PF 120, machine no. 322177, is included in the scope of supply.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2007, functionality: fully functional, FINN-POWER E-BRAKE 200-4100 TS 1 Fully operational servo-mechatronic press brake, supplied with WILA tooling. ⚙️ Bending force: 200 t / 2000 kN 📏 Working length: 4100 mm Gsdpfxoz Nx Nfo Ap Debu 📅 Year: 2007 ⚡ Servo-mechatronic drive – no hydraulics 🛠️ WILA tooling included The machine is in working condition and available for inspection and test bending. 📍 Location: Tukums area, Latvia For further information, photos or videos, please contact us.

Condition: ready for operation (used), functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2011, operating hours: 836 h, machine/vehicle number: ME108831, load capacity: 200 kg, fuel type: electric, working height: 10,000 mm, No minimum price – guaranteed sale to the highest bidder! TECHNICAL DETAILS Load capacity: 200 kg Working height: 10,000 mm MACHINE DETAILS Drive type: Electric Gsdpfx Aez I I Iaop Dsbu Weight: 2,735 kg Rated power: 1.2 kW Operating hours: 836 h External reference: SL16147SP

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, functionally tested; item originates from the dismantling of equipment at an automotive supplier Manufacturer: Phoenix Contact Type: MCR-S-1-5-UI-SW-DCI Description: Universal signal converter from Phoenix Contact for galvanic isolation, amplification, and conversion of current and voltage signals. Designed for precise signal transmission between the field and control levels in industrial automation systems. Input signal: 0–5 V / 0–20 mA, switchable Output signal: 0–5 V / 0–20 mA, switchable Supply voltage: 24 V DC Accuracy: < 0.1 % Galvanic isolation: 2.5 kV Operating temperature: -20 °C to +60 °C Mounting type: DIN rail (35 mm DIN rail) Connection type: Screw terminals Gbodpfxozmm N Nj Ap Deu

Condition: used, The TREPKO PKG 1 is equipped with a single stage of all station , the filling head are built to fill various products ie. Yoghurt, Cream, Sauces, Milk, Fruit pieces of 1 cm, Custard, Etc. The easy maintenance makes these machines highly recommended in production floors keeping productivity at a steady pace. Trepko cup fillers are mainly driven by a main motor converting the movement in an INDEX type gear box, signals for the air cylinders to take action on each station. The filling volumes depend on the clients needs, therefor these have a standard filling volume of 50-500 ml per cup, we can enlarge the filling volume by increasing the diameter of the filling cylinder on request. The machine was used for filling Cheese in small rectangular cups, in regards of change overs to 71,75,80,95 mm OUTSIDE DIAMETER Cups we can offer this service in-house. Contact us for more information. Capacity: 2400 c/h (40cps per minute ) Filling volume: 50-500 gr Prefilling: Fruits or flavours Cup dispensing: Automatic Gbodpfxez Ht Ehs Ap Dou Lid applicator: Automatic Sealing: Automatic Out feed conveyor: Automatic E: 3 phase / 50 hz Control panel: PLC SIEMENS Cup format: Currently rectangular on order we can change to your cup size Loaction: IN STOCK Sale: The machine can be sold "as is " TLC Needed or Fully Refurbished. Contact us for more information.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2001, Technical details: Gbedpfx Apoxxl Sgo Dsu max. wheel diameter: 50 mm gear width: 20 mm max. module: 4 mm min. module: 0,1 mm total power requirement: 12,5 kW weight of the machine ca.: 4000 kg dimensions of the machine ca.: 2,2 x 2,5 x 2,3 m workpiece length - max.: 300 mm

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2018, functionality: fully functional, Hib Akzent 1000 Model T1060-8 Welding Tongs Control Very good used condition, fully functional. Item location: 75053 Gondelsheim See pictures Shipping by freight carrier or collection Gbedpfoxmuzmjx Ap Dju

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2008, Technical details: max. workpiece diameter: 29 mm min. workpiece diameter: 26 mm workpiece length: 66 mm the system was originally delivered for the following workpiece sizes: diameter 26mm - 29mm length 65mm - 66mm Changing parts in the clamping device, handling, etc. would probably result in diameters of up to approx. Ø50mm Total length will probably be almost 400 mm possible with a few conversions. Gbodpfx Apslqac Ss Dou Also dependent on tool lengths, machining lengths on the component, etc. *

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2013, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: Check machine nameplate for serial number, grinding wheel width: 125 mm, grinding wheel diameter: 400 mm, total height: 2,320 mm, total width: 4,600 mm, total length: 6,500 mm, grinding length: 120 mm, type of input current: three-phase, rotational speed (max.): 7,200 rpm, feed length X-axis: 120 mm, feed length Y-axis: 15 mm, workpiece diameter (max.): 30 mm, input voltage: 400 V, Equipment: rotational speed infinitely variable, German Mikrosa Precision CNC Infeed Centerless Grinder MIKROSA KRONOS S 125 Model built late 2013, 1 unit available Capable of complex profile grinding with superior grinding quality and outstanding stability. Equipped with automatic robotic loading & unloading system, wheel dynamic balancing unit and rotary dresser. The machine has always been maintained by official MIKROSA service engineers. Commissioned at the end of 2013. Production ceased in 2019. The machine has remained powered on and kept under warm-running condition ever since. Godszqx Apepfx Ap Dsbu Workpiece diameter range: 0.5 ~ 30 mm • Max workpiece length for infeed grinding: 120 mm • Grinding wheel: Ø 400 x 125 x 203.2 mm • Regulating wheel: Ø 250 x 125 x 127 mm

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2003, Capacity: 900 to 3.000 bottles/hour Gbsdjz Ri Rpepfx Ap Dou Wirehood: Four-wire closures Bottle height: approx. 235 - 360 mm Magazine capacity: 1.600 corks

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2008, functionality: fully functional, 1,0 ST. Gebr. Zwei Komponenten Spritzgiessmaschine das zweite Aggegeat ist seitlich angebau Hersteller: NETSTAL Typ: SYNERGY 1750-900-230 Baujahr: 2016 Gjdpfx Ajz Nmi Hsp Djbu Schließkraft: 175 Tonnen Holmabstand: 510 x 510 mm Schneckendurchmesser 1: 50 mm Spritzteilgewicht 1: 377 g/PS Schneckendurchmesser 2: 25 mm Spritzteilgewicht 2: 47 g/PS Ausstattung: Kernzüge 2 x DS / 1 x AS Zweites Aggregat ist seitlich angebaut Roboter Wittmann, Baujahr: 2016

Condition: new, functionality: fully functional, feed length X-axis: 1,000 mm, feed length Y-axis: 600 mm, feed length Z-axis: 650 mm, spindle speed (max.): 10,000 rpm, XV 1060 Control SINUMERIK 828 D - ShopMill with 15.6" touch screen Clamping surface 1,160 x 600 mm, number of T-slots: 5 X-axis: 1,000 mm, Y-axis: 600 mm, Z-axis: 650 mm Min. distance spindle nose - table: 130 mm, max. 780 mm SK 40 taper, spindle max. speed 10,000 rpm Double-arm tool changer, 24 tools Standard features: - Rigid tapping - Swiveling operator panel - Sliding door with interlock Gbedpfx Apjxugyqj Deu - Viewing windows in work area enclosure - Control cabinet with heat exchanger - 2 LED work area lights - 3-color machine status indicator light - Portable electronic handwheel - Central automatic grease lubrication for all linear axes and X, Y, Z ball screws - Power-off after program end - Compressed air at main spindle for chip removal - Chip flushing system with rinse gun - Spindle cooler for 10,000 rpm - Air gun - Coolant nozzles at spindle - Work area lighting on/off switch - 1 set of leveling elements - Electrical system in accordance with VDE regulations

Condition: used, Universal water temperature control unit with electric heating and connections for external cooling. Pressurized water temperature control unit, circulating process temperature control, heater, cooler, electric heating. SINGLE type STW 180/1-36-100-S Mfg. No.: 130568 Year of manufacture: 2013 Temperature max. 180°C Temperature range +20°C to 180°C Operating overpressure max. 6 bar Pump capacity 100 l/min. Tank volume approx. 22 liters (internal volume) Heating capacity 36 kW - direct injection cooling Pump motor power 1.1 kW Heat transfer medium water Circulating water supply + return DN 32 - G 1 1/4" Cooling water supply DN 20 G 3/4" Cooling water return DN 20 G 3/4" Connection power 41 kVA Rated current 57 A Control system SC Standard type R8200-S-1-SI1-0-6 Godpfxjz N H D Do Ap Djbu Mains connection 400 Volt, 50 Hz. - Temperature control - An external cooling unit or an external cooling circuit is required for cooling (cooling is achieved through direct injection of cooling water into the cooling medium without a heat exchanger). - mobile on 4 rollers - Supplied without connection cable Dimensions L x W x H 1300 x 370 x 1150 mm Weight 200 kg Good condition

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2008, functionality: fully functional, 1,0 ST. Gebr. Zwei Komponenten Spritzgiessmaschine das zweite Aggegeat ist seitlich angebaut. Hersteller: NETSTAL Typ: SYNERGY1700 - 110 Baujahr: 2004 Schließkraft: 240 Tonnen Holmabstand: 630 x 630 mm Schneckendurchmesser 1: 70 mm Spritzteilgewicht 1: 916 g/PS Schneckendurchmesser 2: 28 mm Spritzteilgewicht 2: 59 g/PS Ausstattung: Gbsdpfx Ajz Niz Sep Deu Kernzüge 2 x DS / 1 x AS Zweites Aggregat ist seitlich angebaut

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 1980, LATHE SPL 1250x6000 Chuck diameter: 1250 mm Gbsdpfx Apjwywgbe Deu Max turning over cross slide: 920 mm Length between centers: 6000 mm Main motor: 22 kW Weight approx.: 19 t

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2006, functionality: fully functional, year of last overhaul: 2023, punching force: 300 t, We offer a choice of two identical 2006 machines. 2006 IBERICA 105 SPEED Max sheet size : 750 x1050mm, Min Sheet size : 350 x 400mm, Max mechanical speed : 9000 sph, Max impression strength : 300 tons. Max Carton board : 1.5mm, Mini Paper : 90/ 100 gm2, Max Corrugated board : 3mm, Direct Pallet loading Non stop feeder, Full complement of infeed table furniture, Left hand side pull register lay with sensor, Touch screen, Double action stripping, Godeqzhr Djpfx Ap Debu Automatic Non stop delivery with belt and programmable counter, Centre line, Quicklock on chase and stripping, Micrometric thin plate system, Elevated, Complement of stripping equipment PRICE: £110,000 Ex works for either