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Condition: new, functionality: fully functional, power: 55 kW (74.78 HP), Year of construction: 2026, Ball Mill for Powder and Mining Plant: Structure, Function, and Technical Details A ball mill is a key grinding machine widely used in mining, metallurgy, cement, chemical, and powder-making industries. It is designed to grind various ores and other materials into fine powder through impact and attrition between steel balls and the material inside a rotating cylindrical shell. In mining plants, ball mills are essential for ore beneficiation, preparing materials for flotation, magnetic separation, or leaching processes. In powder production, they ensure uniform particle size and high surface area for further processing. Working Principle The ball mill operates on a simple yet effective principle: as the cylindrical shell rotates around its horizontal axis, the grinding media (steel or ceramic balls) are lifted along the inner wall by centrifugal force and friction. When they reach a certain height, they fall freely, striking and grinding the material below. This repeated motion causes both impact and abrasion, reducing the material to the desired fineness. The grinding process can be performed in dry or wet conditions depending on the application. Structural Composition A standard ball mill consists of several main components: Feeding part: Equipped with a feeder or screw conveyor to ensure uniform material input. Discharging part: Can be grate type or overflow type, depending on the discharge method. Rotating part: The cylindrical shell made of steel plates, lined with wear-resistant liners. Transmission system: Includes motor, reducer, small transmission gear, and electrical control. Grinding media: Steel balls or ceramic balls of different diameters for efficient grinding. Gbodpfxsq Nf U Ee Abhoi The internal liner design and ball size distribution are optimized to achieve maximum grinding efficiency and minimal energy consumption. Technical Details Typical Specifications: Feeding size: ≤25 mm Discharge size: 0.074–0.4 mm Capacity: 0.65–615 t/h (depending on model and material hardness) Cylinder speed: 18–38 r/min Power: 18.5–4500 kW Liner material: High manganese steel, rubber, or alloy steel Grinding media load: 30–45% of cylinder volume Operating Modes: Dry grinding: Suitable for materials that must remain moisture-free, such as cement clinker, limestone, and quartz. Wet grinding: Common in ore beneficiation, where water or slurry improves grinding efficiency and particle uniformity. Application in Mining Plants In mining operations, ball mills are used after crushing to further reduce ore size and liberate valuable minerals. They are integrated into grinding circuits with classifiers, hydrocyclones, and flotation systems. The ground material is classified by size, and oversized particles are returned to the mill for regrinding. This closed-circuit system ensures consistent product fineness and efficient energy use. Common Applications: Gold, copper, iron, and zinc ore grinding Cement clinker and slag processing Silicate and ceramic powder production Coal and mineral powder preparation Conclusion A ball mill is an indispensable piece of equipment in both powder production and mining beneficiation plants. Its ability to grind materials into fine, uniform particles makes it vital for downstream processes such as flotation, sintering, and chemical reactions.

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2026, functionality: fully functional, power: 400 kW (543.85 HP), Ore Beneficiation Plant for Nickel, Copper, Zinc, Graphite, Gold, Silver, Chrome, Quartz/Silica In today’s competitive mining and metallurgical industry, maximizing ore value is critical. Our state-of-the-art Ore Beneficiation Plant offers a complete solution designed to increase the content and quality of raw ore, transforming it into a marketable product ready for further processing or direct sale. Engineered for a wide range of minerals—including nickel, copper, zinc, graphite, gold, silver, chrome, and quartz/silica—our ore beneficiation plant delivers exceptional performance, efficiency, and reliability. Introduction Mining operations around the world face the challenge of processing ores that are often low in grade and require extensive refinement to be economically viable. Beneficiation—the process of increasing the concentration of valuable minerals—plays a vital role in reducing operational costs, enhancing recovery, and ultimately, ensuring profitability. Our ore beneficiation plant, also known as an ore processing plant or mine dressing plant, integrates advanced technology and robust engineering to deliver an efficient crushing, grinding, classifying, and separation process. Designed to handle a wide variety of ores, our plant is the ideal solution for mining companies looking to optimize their extraction and processing operations. Whether you’re processing nickel, copper, zinc, graphite, gold, silver, chrome, or quartz/silica, our plant provides the versatility and performance needed to meet today’s rigorous industrial standards. ## What Is an Ore Beneficiation Plant? An ore beneficiation plant is a facility where raw ore is processed to improve its quality and increase the concentration of valuable minerals. The plant typically includes several stages of processing: 1. Crushing: The raw ore is reduced in size to allow for more efficient downstream processing. 2. Grinding: Further size reduction to liberate the valuable minerals from the waste material. 3. Classifying: Separation of the ore into different size fractions using screening and hydrocyclones. Gedpfxeq Nw Uqo Abhjbi 4. Separation: Employing various physical processes such as magnetic separation, flotation, or gravity separation to concentrate the valuable minerals. 5. Dewatering: Removal of excess water to prepare the concentrate for further processing or shipping. This integrated process not only boosts the metal content but also minimizes waste, thereby improving overall cost efficiency and environmental sustainability.

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2026, power: 300 kW (407.89 HP), Ball Mill for Mining & Fine Powder Making: A ball mill is a fundamental grinding device widely used in mining, metallurgy, cement, and chemical industries. It is designed to grind ores and other materials into fine powder through impact and attrition between steel balls and the material inside a rotating cylindrical shell. In mining plants, ball mills are essential for ore beneficiation, while in powder-making industries, they ensure uniform particle size and high surface area for further processing. Working Principle The ball mill operates on the principle of impact and friction. As the cylindrical shell rotates around its horizontal axis, the grinding media—usually steel or ceramic balls—are lifted along the inner wall by centrifugal force and friction. When they reach a certain height, they fall freely, striking and grinding the material below. This repeated motion breaks down the material into fine particles. The process can be carried out in dry or wet conditions depending on the application. Structural Composition A standard ball mill consists of several main components: Feeding part: Ensures uniform material input through a feeder or screw conveyor. Discharging part: Can be grate type or overflow type, depending on the discharge method. Rotating part: The cylindrical shell made of steel plates, lined with wear-resistant liners. Transmission system: Includes motor, reducer, small transmission gear, and electrical control. Grinding media: Steel or ceramic balls of various diameters for efficient grinding. The internal liner design and ball size distribution are optimized to achieve maximum grinding efficiency and minimal energy consumption. Gedpfx Aoq Ngafobhebi Technical Details/Typical Specifications: Feeding size: ≤25 mm Discharge size: 0.074–0.4 mm Capacity: 0.65–615 t/h (depending on model and material hardness) Cylinder speed: 18–38 r/min Power: 18.5–4500 kW Liner material: High manganese steel, rubber, or alloy steel Grinding media load: 30–45% of cylinder volume Operating Modes: Dry grinding: Used for materials that must remain moisture-free, such as cement clinker, limestone, and quartz. Wet grinding: Common in ore beneficiation, where water or slurry improves grinding efficiency and particle uniformity. Application in Mining and Powder Production In mining operations, ball mills are used after crushing to further reduce ore size and liberate valuable minerals. They are integrated into grinding circuits with classifiers, hydrocyclones, and flotation systems. The ground material is classified by size, and oversized particles are returned to the mill for regrinding. This closed-circuit system ensures consistent product fineness and efficient energy use. In fine powder production, ball mills are used to produce materials such as silicate, ceramic powder, refractory materials, and chemical raw materials. The uniform particle size achieved by ball milling enhances product quality and performance in downstream applications. Conclusion A ball mill is an indispensable piece of equipment for both mining and fine powder making. Its ability to grind materials into fine, uniform particles makes it vital for ore beneficiation and industrial powder production. With flexible configurations, high efficiency, and reliable operation, modern ball mills provide a cost-effective and energy-efficient solution for large-scale grinding, ensuring consistent quality and productivity across diverse applications.

Condition: new, functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2026, Product overviews of Waste Industrial Timber Wood Pallet Double Shaft Shredder Shredders can generally be used to shred hard-to-break plastics, rubber, large tires, large nylon materials, large pieces of fishing nets, fibers, paper, wood, electrical devices, cables, PET bottles, cardboard, wood, plastic barrels, etc. Solid objects. The main function of the equipment is to squeeze the bulk materials and large-diameter drum metal materials that are not convenient for transportation through the shear of the shredder, and shred them into sheets that meet the requirements. The main structure of the double-shaft shredder is a feed hopper, a knife roller, a driving device, a bearing, a hydraulic system, and an electric control box system. Working principle: All kinds of waste materials enter the shredding chamber through the feeding hopper. The double-knife rollers do relative rotation to shred and cut the materials, and then the materials are discharged from the shredder to achieve the shredding of large pieces of materials. Applicable materials and fields Double shaft shredder is one of ethential equipment for waste recycling in following fields and materials: +Bulky Waste: Sofa,Mattress,Chair, Funiture,Windows,etc +Industrial Waste: Textiles,Leather,Rubbers, Leathers ,General industrial waste,etc +Hazardous Solid waste: Medical waste,Paint sludge,Radioactive waste,Hazardous waste oil drum,Jumbo bag,etc +Paper waste: Carton,Cardboard,Book,Newspaper,Document,Brochure,Packaging paper,etc +Garden waste: Branch, Wood pallet, Trunks, Boards,etc Gbedevn D I Nopfx Abhsi +Domestic waste +Biomass straw: Straw, Bamboo, Corn, Sorghum straw, Bean straw, Fruit shell, Palm shell, etc +Scrap metal: Car Shell, Aluminum casting, Household appliances, Scrap light metal,Automobile hub,etc +Paper mill waste: Paper mill slag, Paper mill rope, Paper mill offcut,etc +Wood pallet, scrap furniture, waste chair, tree roots recycling, etc. Double shaft shredder main body: The main body is welded with excellent steel plate to ensure the stability of the equipment under heavy load for a long time. Bearing: The bearing seat is split and easy to disassemble, and the movable knife, fixed knife, bearing and other parts can be quickly removed, and it is easy to maintain and replace the knife. The sealing structure can avoid the contact of broken materials and grease, and can also protect bearings and gears when handling liquid materials.

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2026, power: 11 kW (14.96 HP), Rotary drum dryer for drying various kinds of materials like sand, biomass, sawdust, red mud, bentonite, coal Diameter: 1200mm Length: 10000mm Power: 11-13KW Gradient: 3% Gsdpfx Asq Igyvobhebi Capacity: 1.5-3 t/h Weight: 14Tons Besides this model, we also have the other models of rotary drum dryer 1500x12000mm, 2400x20000mm, and complete drying system for various materials, welcome to contact us for more details Our factory can design suitable solution according to your specific requirements. Rotary drum dryers are highly efficient machines used extensively in the processing of wood chips, sawdust, and biomass. They operate by utilizing a rotating drum that heats and dries the materials as they are transported through the cylinder. The design of these dryers allows them to handle a wide range of particle sizes and moisture levels, making them suitable for various types of biomass. They can also tolerate high-temperature exhaust gases, which contributes to their efficiency and versatility in industrial applications. Rotary Drum Dryer for Wood Chip, Sawdust, Biomass 🌳 Introduction to Rotary Drum Dryers In the realm of biomass processing, moisture control is key. Enter the Rotary Drum Dryer, an indispensable machine designed to efficiently reduce the moisture content of wood chips, sawdust, and biomass. This essential tool enhances productivity, improves fuel quality, and is pivotal in biomass energy production. Let’s explore its functionality and benefits! 💡 💼 Key Benefits of Using a Rotary Drum Dryer 1. Energy Efficiency: Designed to optimize energy use, Rotary Drum Dryers consume less power while delivering high drying efficiency. 🌿💡 2. High Capacity: Capable of handling large volumes of biomass, these dryers are perfect for industrial applications where large-scale drying is needed. 🏭 3. Improved Product Quality: By achieving the optimal moisture content, the dryer enhances the quality of biomass for fuel, pellets, and other applications. 🔥 4. Versatility: Suitable for a wide range of materials including wood chips, sawdust, and various types of biomass, making it a versatile tool in any biomass processing plant. 🌳 # Application Fields and Materials of Rotary Drum Dryer II. Application Fields A. Agriculture - Drying of grains, seeds, and forage. - Processing of agricultural by-products like straw and husks. B. Food Industry - Dehydration of food products such as fruits, vegetables, and spices. - Preservation of food quality during drying. C. Chemical Industry - Drying of chemical powders, granules, and crystals. - Application in the production of fertilizers and detergents. D. Mining and Minerals - Drying of ores, coal, and mineral concentrates. - Reduction of moisture content for easier handling and processing. E. Construction Materials - Drying of sand, cement, and other construction aggregates. - Preparation of materials for manufacturing processes. F. Pharmaceuticals - Drying of pharmaceutical powders and active ingredients. III. Materials Processed by Rotary Drum Dryer A. Organic Materials - Biomass, wood chips, sawdust, and animal feed. B. Inorganic Materials - Sand, clay, limestone, and gypsum. C. Waste Products - Sludge from wastewater treatment plants. - Industrial by-products for recycling or reuse.

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2026, functionality: fully functional, FABO Log Washers are designed to remove woods, plastic clay contaminants and other harmful materials from gravel, stone and hard ore feeds. Designed to successfully clean the most difficult materials, FABO Log Washers allow the user to obtain valuable products from what was once considered waste. When selecting a Log Washer, the variety of feed material must be taken into consideration. The volume and shape of the feed material can influence the capacity of a particular size fraction. FABO can provide a list of capacities and water requirements based on the user's material. Gbedpeyr A Tpefx Abhei Key benefits to the buyer include improved wear characteristics, reduced costs and the ability to efficiently wash aggregates and drift out clays/sands/lights (wood/plastics) on one chassis.

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, With this offer, you are purchasing a used accessory, the ‘Ricoh RB5020 ring binder’. Gedpfxsxzqhfs Abhobi Item for sale: 1 x Ricoh RB5020 suitable for the following models: Ricoh Pro C7200 series Ricoh Pro 8200 series Ricoh Pro C9200 series Please check in advance whether this accessory is suitable for your machine. Condition: This offer is for a used device, which may show signs of wear (minor scratches or yellowing). The device has been tested for functionality A test binding can be seen in the photo. Packaging and shipping: You are welcome to view the device during our business hours. Please make an appointment! Seaworthy packaging and worldwide shipping available on request! A functional test will be recorded on video for you before shipping or collection. For more information, please feel free to contact us personally.

Condition: used, Separator element for pallet racking system. Suitable for frames with depths of 1000, 1050, and 1100 mm. Arm length: 500 mm For a 2700 mm bay with 6 arms: 24 pcs – 67 EUR + VAT/piece For a 2700 mm bay with 10 arms: 46 pcs – 89 EUR + VAT/piece For an 1800 mm bay with 7 arms: 4 pcs – 51 EUR + VAT/piece If you require racking or accessories in other configurations or designs, please contact us. We offer a comprehensive range of new and used racking and accessories and are happy to assist you with your planning. Gjdpfx Aok Tzzlobhjbi Further accessories available upon request, including: Frame, corner, and impact protection, push-through protections, chipboard panels, wire mesh decks, rear mesh panels, and depth support bars. Shipping: Please inquire about shipping costs, specifying your postal code, location, and desired quantity. Additional services: Planning, racking assembly/disassembly, purchase/sale Technical data, specifications, and prices are subject to change and errors. Subject to prior sale!

Condition: not inspected (used), functionality: unexamined, overall weight: 300 kg, total length: 1,300 mm, total width: 1,300 mm, total height: 2,900 mm, No reserve price – guaranteed sale to the highest bidder! Placing a bid requires collection within the specified periods: either between 11/05/2026 and 13/05/2026 or between 18/05/2026 and 21/05/2026! Auction of a mobile small parts carousel including stock of various clamping devices, threaded rods, nuts, and clamping plates! MACHINE DETAILS Gbsdpfx Aeyn Elmjbhji Dimensions & Weight Dimensions (L x W x H): 1,300 x 1,300 x 2,900 mm Weight: 300 kg External reference: Lot 10 / Wittner

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2025, An active lime production line is a set of equipment designed to produce high-quality lime from limestone, with the aim of meeting various industrial applications, such as in the production of steel, environmental desulfurization, and other processes. The process typically involves several stages, including limestone crushing, calcination, hydration, and finally, the production of active lime. Here is a general overview of the main steps involved in an active lime production line: 1. Limestone Quarrying: Gsdpfx Aboq Nyzbehjbi - Raw limestone is extracted from quarries and transported to the lime plant. The limestone may undergo crushing and sizing processes to achieve the desired particle size. 2. Limestone Preheating: - The raw limestone is typically preheated in a preheater or precalciner before entering the rotary kiln. This preheating step helps to reduce the energy consumption in the kiln by partially decarbonizing the limestone. 3. Loading into the Rotary Kiln: - The preheated limestone is loaded into the rotary kiln, a large, rotating cylindrical furnace. The kiln is inclined at a slight angle to facilitate the movement of materials through the kiln. 4. Calcination: - In the rotary kiln, the limestone undergoes high-temperature calcination (typically in the range of 900 to 1,450 degrees Celsius). This process causes the limestone to undergo chemical and physical changes, converting it into lime (calcium oxide). 5. Cooling: - After calcination, the lime moves through the cooling zone of the kiln, where it is cooled down. This cooling step is essential to stabilize the lime and prepare it for further processing. 6. Hydration: - The quicklime produced in the kiln is then slaked with water in a hydration process to produce slaked lime (calcium hydroxide). This is typically done in a separate hydrator. 7. Separation of Unreacted Lime: - The slaked lime is separated from any unreacted quicklime or impurities. This step ensures that the final product is of high quality. 8. Filtering and Drying: - The separated slaked lime is filtered to remove excess water, and the resulting product is dried to achieve the desired moisture content. 9. Storage and Packaging: - The final product, active lime (calcium oxide), is stored in silos or other storage facilities. It can then be packaged for sale or transported to end-users. 10. Environmental Considerations: - Dust collection systems and other environmental control measures are often implemented to minimize emissions and ensure compliance with environmental regulations. The design and configuration of an active lime production line can vary based on factors such as the type of limestone used, production capacity requirements, and specific industrial applications. Modern production lines often incorporate advanced technologies to optimize energy efficiency, minimize environmental impact, and ensure high-quality active lime production.

Condition: new, functionality: fully functional, power: 3 kW (4.08 HP), Year of construction: 2025, Equipment: air conditioning, cooling unit, G16 Godpfx Abjwz Ufwjhobi Type: Two chucks

Condition: new, functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2025, travel distance X-axis: 50,000 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 4,000 mm, input voltage: 380 V, input frequency: 50 Hz, warranty duration: 24 months, Equipment: cooling unit, GS-50040LB (Bevel Cutting) Ultra-Large Format Laser Cutting Machine 40kW Bevel Cutting + 60kW Straight Cutting Dual Beam, Dual Head, Dual Ultra Ultra-Large Cutting Area: 50m × 4m Dual High-Power Cutting Heads – 60kW Straight & 40kW Bevel Cutting Precision Cutting for Ultra-Thick Plates Bevel Cutting Performance: ✔ Y-Bevel: 40kW | 20mm Carbon Steel | 1.4m/min ✔ K-Bevel: 40kW | 30mm Carbon Steel | 0.35m/min ✔ V-Bevel: 40kW | 50mm Carbon Steel | 0.2m/min Gedpfx Aev Ng E Tebhobi ✔ Straight Cutting: 60kW | 150mm Carbon Steel | 0.3m/min Applications: Aerospace | Shipbuilding | Bridges | Heavy Machinery

Condition: new, PRICE: 5000 EUR Pillar lift for cutter cart Gbsdpfovtz U Rox Abhei Made of stainless steel Lifting weight: 250 kg Dimensions: 1520x1300x2740mm Electrical power: 1.1kW Voltage: 380V 50Hz

Condition: new, PRICE: 5000 EUR Mobile lift for cutter cart Made of stainless steel Lifting weight: 200 kg Dimensions: 1160x800x2900mm Electrical power: 0.75kW Gjdpevtzzksfx Abhsbi Voltage: 220V 50Hz

Condition: excellent (used), Sound insulating cabins. For Bruderer high speed automatic presses. On stock available cabins for machines: BSTA 25 BSTA 41 BSTA 50 Godoiw Icbjpfx Abhebi BSTA 60 BSTA 80 Cabins sold refurbished, carefully disassembled and packed for transport. Painted in white and anthracite (or colors requested by customer). Cabin is equipped with all needed holes for easy use of a Bruderer press. Front and rear doors with inspection glass. Air ventilator for climate control on top cover. For more information don't hesitate to contact us. We have on stock Bruderer BSTA 25, BSTA 30, BSTA 50, BSTA 110, also Mabu and Schaal automatic punching machines.

Condition: like new (used), Spiral dough mixer Gbjdpsx N Ed Tjfx Abhji Capacity: 100 kg of flour 160/180 kg of dough Diosna Container volume: 260 liters Electrical power: 380V / 50Hz / 3N/PE Two timers Two speeds Rewind option Half cover with safety switch Wheels with brakes

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, With this offer, you are purchasing a used Keyence VL-700 optical coordinate measuring machine. Item for sale: Gbjdpfx Aboyamwnshei 1 x Keyence VL-700 with the following equipment: Includes laptop with application software Includes calibration plate Condition: This offer is for a used device, which may show signs of wear (minor scratches or yellowing). The device has been tested for functionality. Packaging and shipping: You are welcome to view the device during our business hours. Please make an appointment! Seaworthy packaging and worldwide shipping available on request! A functionality test will be recorded on video for you before shipping or collection. For more information, please feel free to contact us personally.

Year of construction: 2026, condition: new, functionality: fully functional, Plastic crusher with 30 kW motor power, 800 mm wide rotor, capacity up to 1 ton of rigid plastic, 500 kg/h for film materials. Suitable for crushing PP, PE, PVC, ABS, etc. Equipped with 6 rotary blades and 4 fixed blades. Crushers are tested in our production facility under real 24/7 industrial working conditions. Very easy to open the crusher and change blades. Screen size: 12 mm. Electric cabinet included. A very strong and powerful machine. Optional air blower and silo storage for fully automatic operation are available. Spare blades and screen included. For more photos and working videos, contact us via WhatsApp. Gbedeychdhjpfx Abhji

Condition: good (used), Conveyor belt for waste removal guillotine, three-knife, automatic die-cutter Gsdpfx Abjwfq T Sshebi Production Germany Working width 52 cm, conveyor belt length approx. 300 cm. Discharge of scrap from under the machine directly to the container.

Condition: like new (used), Device for cleaning die-cut sheets Gbsdpfxswyxi Rj Abhei German production, Metabo. 230V power supply. Easy-to-use, manual device for removing external waste from the pallets of die-cut sheets. Safe, two-handed operation of the device.

Condition: good (used), Conveyor belt for scraps from guillotine M-Fordersysteme Gbsdpfxjwxtdgs Abhei Production Germany Year of manufacture 2015. Working width 46 cm, conveyor length approx. 250 cm. Discharge of trimmings from under the machine directly to the container. Material pressing roller, upper cover preventing spillage of the excavated material.

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 1980, Cryogenic storage tank for liquid vessel Gedpfx Absfz Diqohsbi Oxygen, Argon, Nitrogen, Methane, Helium and Carbon dioxyde LIN, LOX, LAR, LNG, LHe und CO2, hydrogen. We would also be pleased to prepare an offer for you or provide you with further information about other vessels. To discuss the possibilities, please contact us by phone or e-mail.

Condition: excellent (used), functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 1996, Aseptic filler for drums Asepsystems with 2 heads 1" plug with homogenizer and sterilizer. Gbjdpfxeq Rdhuo Abhoi

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, With this offer, you are purchasing a used ‘Xerox full bleed trimming’ finishing system. Item for sale: 1 x Xerox complete finishing system for brochure production with the following equipment: Gbsdpfxexnxy Nj Abhei Includes A-FN13 booklet finisher Includes CZ module A-FN08 Includes 2-page trimming A-GW07 Includes Plockmatic Pro35 WITHOUT IDM You will receive a complete finishing system for complete brochure production. Plug and play connection to various Xerox machines. Xerox Versant 3100 Xerox Verdant 4100 Xerox Versant 180 Xerox Versant 280 and more... Condition: This offer is for a used device, which may show signs of wear (minor scratches or yellowing). The device has been tested for functionality. Packaging and shipping: You are welcome to view the device during our business hours. Please make an appointment! Seaworthy packaging and worldwide shipping available on request! For more information, please feel free to contact us personally.