Used Corner Cutting Machine for sale (94,031)

Condition: good (used), Arm length: 2x1800mm Dodpfx Astxpgvohxsku

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2025, Entry-level sheet fiber laser metal cutting machine Lower laser cutting cost and easy operation The modular cutting machine table with stiffeners saves time for disassambly and improves convenience and rigidity. The special fiber laser nozzle and cutting process ensure faster carbon steel oxygen cutting, more gas-saving low-pressure stainless steel nitrogen cutting, and better-quality carbon steel air cutting. Dksdshv U U Djpfx Ahxeu Fiber laser heads are able to detect jutting obstacles to effectively reduce the damage rate and save the maintenance cost of a laser cutter. Applicable Material: metal Condition: New Laser Type: Fiber Laser Laser Power: 1000W, 1500W, 2000W, 3000W Cutting Area: 3000*1524mm Positioning accuracy: ±0.05mm Repositioning accuracy: ±0.03mm Cutting Speed: 0-100m/min Graphic Format Supported: AI, BMP, Dst, Dwg, DXF, DXP, LAS, PLT CNC or Not: Yes Cooling Mode: WATER COOLING

Condition: excellent (used), functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2015, laser power: 2,000 W, Traverse paths: X-axis (mm) 3060 Y-axis (mm) 1530 Z-axis (mm) 160 Max. Sheet dimensions (mm) 3048×1524 Control: Sinumerik 840D SL Laser power: 2000W Max. sheet thickness: Steel 12 mm Stainless steel 6 mm Aluminium (AlMg3) 6 mm Copper 3 mm Brass 3 mm With loading and unloading system for the sheets Djdpfx Ahsxfgp Hsxeku

Condition: as good as new (ex-display), Year of construction: 2024, Machine dimensions: - (L x W x H) 9,350 mm x 2800 mm x 2300 mm, length with filter 5300 mm. Technical details: - Max. Sheet size: 3,048 x 1,524 Max. - Max. Sheet weight: 200 kg/m² -Laser power (IPG): 6 kW -Travel distance Z - axis: 125 mm -Max. Synchronization speed (X-Y): 141 m/min. -Max. Acceleration (X-Y): 10 m/s² - Positioning accuracy: ±0.05 mm Dedpod N Rfdofx Ahxeku - Repeat accuracy: ±0.05 mm Basic equipment: -Control: Siemens Sinumerik 840 D - Laser head: Precitec light Cutter F 125 Focus - Sheet position detection and measuring system -Positioning laser diode -Automatic plate changer -Automatic nozzle cleaner -Central lubrication unit - Chip tray - Software: Lantek, or Metalix Cad/Cam software with autonesting - Remote control: Remote maintenance Laser cutting options: - Pierceline (piercing settings) -Focusline - Plasmaline -Fastline - Flyline Options include: - Tower with 10 pallet positions - Automatic chip conveyor - Integrated camera (post-production of parts, micro-joints) - Air dryer - Auto. Nozzle Changer (automatic nozzle changer) - Inside camera

Condition: ready for operation (used), functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2014, operating hours: 26,000 h, travel distance X-axis: 3,000 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 1,500 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 115 mm, cutting speed: 3,00,000 mm/min, workpiece weight (max.): 1,800 kg, TECHNICAL DETAILS Travel ranges X-axis: 3,000 mm Y-axis: 1,500 mm Z-axis: 115 mm Maximum workpiece weight: 900 kg Laser: TruDisk 5001 Maximum power: 5,000 W Wavelength: 1.03 µm Maximum sheet thickness Mild steel: 25 mm Stainless steel: 20/25 mm Aluminum: 20/25 mm Copper: 10 mm Brass: 10 mm Speed Simultaneous: 265 m/min Djdpjxd Afhefx Ahxjku Accuracy Positioning deviation Pa: 0.05 mm Maximum mean positioning deviation Ps: 0.03 mm MACHINE DETAILS Control unit: Siemens Sinumerik 840D SL Dimensions & Weight Dimensions (L x W x H): 8,300 x 4,800 x 2,400 mm Weight: 12,000 kg Power consumption Total system: 7–39 kW Resonator: 5 kW fiber Beam on hours: 26,000 h Operating hours: 68,000 h

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2021, General Data Measurements width 3050 mm Measurements depth 8600 mm Dkedpoxdn Unefx Ahxou Measurements height 2210 mm Machine weight 8200 kg Movement X-Axis Movement 1500 mm X-Axis Accuracy ±0.03 mm Y-Axis Movement 3000 mm Y-Axis Accuracy ±0.03 mm Z-Axis Movement 315 mm U-Axis Movement 6000 mm Workpiece Workpiece weight 600 kg Additional Equipment Equipped with an exchange table and enclosure Laser Class 1 – Enclosure complies with European standards Automatic distance regulation for consistent cutting quality Automatic focus adjustment Equipped with a high-resolution camera for monitoring Cooling and lubrication system High precision and acceleration Operator Training Documentation / CE Certification This 4-axis THETA TL 3015 PWD fiber laser cutting machine was manufactured in 2021. Equipped with a 4 kW laser, it handles a maximum working area of 1500 mm x 3000 mm and features an exchange table, enclosure compliant with European standards, and a high-resolution camera for real-time monitoring. Ideal for cutting various metals with precision. If you are looking to get high-quality cutting capabilities consider the THETA TL 3015 PWD machine we have for sale. Contact us for more information. Application Types Cutting

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2016, The machine is in good technical condition; inspection while running is possible by arrangement. Table size: 3000 x 1500 mm, completely new power source installed in 2023. Still in operation, serviced by Bystronic. Processes materials: steel up to 20 mm, stainless steel and aluminum up to 15 mm, brass and copper up to 8 mm. Dkedpfexgp Alox Ahxou

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 1995, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: C 50 F, Used cake cutting machine. Dsdpfx Ahswxly Toxsku - Year of manufacture: 1995, EXTERNAL DIMENSIONS (in cm) - H: 154, - W: 105, - D: 90.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2020, operating hours: 6,000 h, Digital Plotter Cutting System, Manufacturer: Zünd - Switzerland Year of manufacture: 2020, original purchase price verifiably over €80,000 net! Model: G3 M-1600 The machine is fully functional and available for inspection and demonstration at any time. Machine location: Bayreuth ____ Please find below some details from the 2020 order: Working area: Width: 1330 mm, Length: 1600 mm Triple module carrier, laser pointer, adjustable vacuum area Integrated Tool Initialization (ITI) for modules 2 and 3, right side User manual in German included 3-phase 400 V (323 V – 457 V) 50 Hz CEE32 External compressed air supply required Material clearance: 60 mm With appropriate tooling, materials up to 50 mm thick can be cut Workstation Bracket for two modules and three tools, including storage space Monitor mount, compartment for PC. Max. PC dimensions: Width 200 mm, Height 480 mm, Length 470 mm, with compact keyboard (USB + PS/2 ports) Vacuum turbine 1–9 kW 3ph 400 V (50/60 Hz) Automatically regulated vacuum for material fixation, energy-efficient Extension kit for 1–9 kW / 1–15 kW vacuum turbine Dedpoxlzyysfx Ahxjku Enables placement of vacuum turbine up to 5 m from the cutter. Includes bracket for vertical silencer placement Universal Module UM-ZS* For use with various cutting and drawing tools Cutting mat PLP (anthracite) S3/G3 M-1600 Thickness: 2.5 mm, Width: 1410 mm, Length: 1984 mm, 2-piece Cutting tool UCT Universal Cutting Tool, including spring-mounted glide shoe and 2 blade holders types 1 & 3 Blade set for UCT/SCT cutting tool 14 blades: 4 x Z10, 10 x Type 6 Zünd Cut Center Software Suite V3.x For intuitive and simple operation of a Zünd Digital Cutter. Includes Cut Server, Cut Manager, Cut Editor for a single PC. Cut Queue For automated workflow and reporting, including unlimited number of hotfolders Camera option For edge detection, “best fit”, “fit to object” and “fit to job” compensation Integrated compact color camera ICC Ensures perfect detection of almost all registration marks, even with low color contrast, poor lighting conditions, and when processing reflective materials. Includes 3 sockets for connecting powered tools Frame grabber card For controlling the ICC camera via Zünd Cut Center Software _____ All information is without obligation; errors excepted. Used machines are exclusively sold to commercial buyers and without warranty.

Condition: as good as new (ex-display), Year of construction: 2022, This price applies exclusively to the demonstration machine only. Machine Dimensions: • (L x W x H) 5308 mm x 2810 mm x 1860 mm, length with filter 6582 mm. Technical Details: • Year of manufacture: 2022 • Max. sheet size: 3,048 x 1,524 mm • Max. sheet weight: 200 kg/m² • Laser power (IPG): 2 kW • Z-axis travel: 125 mm • Max. synchronized speed (X-Y): 141 m/min • Max. acceleration (X-Y): 14 m/s² • Positioning accuracy: ±0.05 mm • Repeatability: ±0.05 mm • Cutting capacity: • Steel: 12 mm • Stainless steel: 6 mm • Aluminium (AlMg3): 6 mm • Brass: 6 mm • Copper: 3 mm Standard Equipment: Dkodpfx Ahed R Uzrexou • Control unit: Bosch Rexroth • Laser head: Precitec light Cutter F 125 Focus (manual) • Sheet metal detection and measuring system • Positioning laser diode • Central lubrication unit • Chip tray • Software: Lantek or Metalix CAD/CAM software with auto-nesting • Remote control: Remote maintenance • Laser cutting options: • Pierceline (piercing settings) • Focusline • Plasmaline • Fastline • Flyline The machine can be viewed and demonstrated at any time by appointment in our demonstration center in Staufenberg. Additional machines are available for demonstration in Staufenberg. We are happy to provide further information upon request.

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2011, machine/vehicle number: 11095150, IPG Laser GmbH used 4kW laser source with cooling unit 400-460V AC 3P/PE 50/60 Hz 30.8A year of construction 2011 Dkodperq D D Ejfx Ahxju DWG number: G25-16-100920-2 Cooling unit: LC170.01-W3.5 Year of construction 2010 3/PE - 400V 50Hz 21,8A 4pcs available

Year of construction: 2009, condition: ready for operation (used), General Data Measurements width 2914 mm Measurements depth 7105×× Measurements height 2010 mm Machine weight 10100 kg Main Drive Number of axis 3 Media Power consumption 30 kW Dodsw N Tnljpfx Ahxeku This 3-axis AMADA LC 3015 F1 NT CO2 laser cutting machine was manufactured in 2009. It has a mass of 11.4 tons and requires 98 kVA of power, with a laser capacity of 4.0 kW. If you are looking to get high-quality cutting capabilities, consider the AMADA LC 3015 F1 NT machine we have for sale. Contact us for more information. Application Types Cutting

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2007, operating hours: 31,194 h, laser power: 3,200 W, sheet thickness steel (max.): 20 mm, sheet thickness stainless steel (max.): 12 mm, sheet thickness aluminum (max.): 8 mm, table height: 2,200 mm, working length: 3,000 mm, working width: 1,500 mm, Laser Trumpf TLC3030 – TruFlow 3200 model Laser power: 3200W Year of manufacture: 2007 Table length: 3000 mm Table width: 1500 mm Table height: 2200 mm Control system: Siemens Machine weight approx.: 12,000 kg Machine dimensions: 9300 x 4600 x 2200 mm Operating hours (as of 22.8.2025): Beam on: 31,194 h Machine on: 62,564 h Maximum sheet thickness (steel): 20 mm Maximum sheet thickness (stainless steel): 12 mm Maximum sheet thickness (aluminium): 8 mm Djdpexgptwofx Ahxjku Standard equipment: Machine: - Enclosed machine frame with integrated laser unit - Motion unit for high-precision machining - Enclosed beam guide - One-head cutting strategy - Cooling unit - Automatic longitudinal pallet changer - Wide longitudinal conveyor belt - Work area lighting - Positioning laser diode - PierceLine - FocusLine - PlasmaLine Cutting heads: - 7.5" cutting head – universal from 0.5 mm up to 20 mm - 5" cutting head – for use from 0.5 mm up to 4 mm - 3.75" cutting head – high speed head up to 0.8 mm thickness - ControlLine: Height control and external sheet edge detection - SprintLine – optimization of cutting speed and head movement for increased productivity - PierceLine – optimization of piercing process, shorter piercing times, reduced splatter, minimized deformation at piercing point Safety: - CE marking - Light barriers - Multi-chamber extraction system - Compact extraction system

Condition: ready for operation (used), functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2008, controller model: Siemens Sinumerik 840D, travel distance X-axis: 6,000 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 2,000 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 115 mm, workpiece weight (max.): 4,800 kg, Trumpf TruLaser with LoadMaster! TECHNICAL DETAILS X-axis: 6,000 mm Y-axis: 2,000 mm Z-axis: 115 mm Workpiece Max. weight: 4,800 kg Maximum Speed Simultaneous: 300 m/min Djdpfoxc U Ulox Ahxsku Accuracy Position deviation Pa: 0.05 mm Mean position deviation Ps: 0.03 mm MACHINE DETAILS Control: Siemens Sinumerik 840D Dimensions and Weight Dimensions (L x W x H): 16,950 x 5,550 x 2,550 mm Weight: 16,000 kg Resonator: 6 kW CO2 Beam operating hours: 25,000 h EQUIPMENT LoadMaster

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2012, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 12C2221, TECHNICAL DETAILS Width of the worktable: 3,380 mm Note: The digital nesting tableau is not included. Djdpsxlcguofx Ahxoku

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2023, functionality: fully functional, For sale: Boxmaker 2500 working width, fully automatic, 2 flexo printers 500x200 mm, 2 die cutters for hand holes, or depending on the installed die, year of manufacture 2023. Dksdoxgbycspfx Ahxeu

Condition: good (used), Burning cutting device with turntable Dsdpfx Ajd Dti Iehxjku ideal for welding stages burning Turntable diameter 285 mm maximum burning diameter 600 mm GES. Height 1150 mm Width 900 mm Depth 500 mm

Year of construction: 2023, condition: ready for operation (used), Additional Equipment Laser with 8kw and chiller Open Cabin with right and left side accessible doors Safety glasses on the doors NIGHT Cut for safer cutting and piercing process SMART Cut for faster processing of thin material MAX Cut for piercing process time reduction for thick material Gas Mixer Cut Dksdpfoxb E Rbex Ahxeu Nozzle check and OPC by camera Adaptive cut ATC automatic tip changer with 20 nozzle stations This Prima Power Laser Genius + 1530 was manufactured in 2023. It features an 8kw laser with chiller, open cabins on both sides, safety glasses on doors, and a high-capacity dust collector. It includes advanced cutting technologies like NIGHT Cut, SMART Cut, and MAX Cut, plus an ATC automatic tip changer with 20 nozzle stations. Consider the opportunity to buy this Prima Power Laser Genius + 1530 fiber laser cutting machine. Contact us for more information. Application Types Cutting

Condition: reconditioned (used), functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2023, laser power: 3,000 W, table length: 6,000 mm, table height: 900 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 1,500 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 3,000 mm, power: 3 kW (4.08 HP), compressed air connection: 6 bar, warranty duration: 6 months, year of last overhaul: 2025, table width: 1,500 mm, Equipment: CE marking, cooling unit, documentation/manual, dust extraction, emergency stop, fume extraction, safety light barrier, X-axis 3000 mm Y-axis 1500 mm Precitec laser head Automatic height adjustment Rollers and brushes in the table Dkedpfx Ahowk Eg Rjxsu Small parts flap 350 x 1500 mm Conveyor belt for small parts Automatic clamp adjustment Teka Filtercube 2N extraction system The machine is technically inspected at Boschert, and defective parts are replaced accordingly. We provide a 6-month factory warranty on machines that have been technically inspected and offered by us. Commissioning, training, and service can be offered separately at any time upon request.

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2025, functionality: fully functional, cutting width (max.): 1,600 mm, insertion height: 50 mm, cutting length (max.): 2,500 mm, input current: 30 A, input voltage: 400 V, Equipment: documentation/manual, Akonda.pl - Your Official iEcho Partner. We offer the highly versatile and powerful iEcho TK4S, the ultimate solution for automated cutting across multiple industries. Its modular design allows for perfect customization to meet your specific production needs, from sign & display and printing to packaging, textile, and industrial manufacturing. The iEcho TK4S is engineered for precision, speed, and reliability. Its robust construction and advanced features ensure high-quality results on a vast range of materials. As an official iEcho service partner, Akonda.pl provides comprehensive support, including professional installation, operator training, and ongoing technical service to keep your operations running smoothly. Key Features of the iEcho TK4S: Dedsxfrh Uspfx Ahxoku Modular Tool Head: Can be equipped with up to three tool modules simultaneously, allowing for complex jobs without stopping. A wide range of tools is available: - Electric Oscillating Tool (EOT): Perfect for cutting soft and medium-density materials. - Pneumatic Oscillating Tool (POT): An air-driven tool with an 8mm stroke for cutting hard, dense materials up to 110mm thick. - Universal Cutting Tool (UCT): For high-speed through-cutting of materials up to 5mm. - Creasing Tool (CTT): Delivers perfect creases on cardboard and corrugated materials. - High-Speed Router (RZ): With a speed of up to 60,000 RPM, it can mill and engrave hard materials like acrylic and PVC. High Performance: Maximum cutting speed of 1500 mm/s and an accuracy of ±0.1mm. Durable Construction: Built with a lightweight and strong aviation aluminum frame. Automation Ready: Can be equipped with automatic feeding and collecting systems for 24/7 production. Intelligent Camera System: Ensures precise positioning and accurate contour cutting for printed jobs. Available from Stock & Full Service Support! At Akonda.pl, we understand the importance of fast delivery and reliable support. IN STOCK NOW: We have a permanent stock of iEcho TK4S machines in the popular 2500 x 1600 mm size, ready for immediate delivery. OTHER SIZES AVAILABLE: Looking for a different dimension? Contact us to inquire about other available sizes and custom configurations. We can supply the full range of iEcho models. PROFESSIONAL SERVICE: Our team of factory-trained technicians provides expert installation, training, and warranty/post-warranty service across Europe. Why Choose Akonda.pl? Authorized iEcho Service Partner: We are your direct link to professional support and genuine spare parts. Largest iEcho Warehouse in Europe: Minimizing lead times and ensuring you get your machine faster. Proven Expertise: We have extensive experience in implementing cutting solutions for a wide variety of industrial applications. Contact us today to receive a customized offer, schedule a demonstration, or discuss how the iEcho TK4S can revolutionize your production.

Condition: good (used), functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2010, laser power: 4,000 W, CNC Laser Cutting System TruLaser 3030 (L20) 4000 Watt X Working area max.: 3000 mm Y Working area max.: 1500 mm Z Working area max.: 115 mm Control: Siemens Sinumerik 840D SL Laser power: 4000 Watt Operating hours: 35,881 h Laser on-time: 18,757 h Sheet thickness St. max.: 20 mm Sheet thickness SS max.: 15 mm Sheet thickness Al. max.: 8 mm Standard machine equipment Machine - Enclosed machine frame with integrated laser unit - Motion unit for high-precision machining - Torque drive combined with linear direct drives - Enclosed beam guidance - Single cutting head strategy - Chiller unit - Automatic pallet changer (longitudinal) - Wide longitudinal conveyor belt - Ergonomic control panel with color touch display - Work area lighting - Positioning laser diode - Spray device - PierceLine - FocusLine - NitroLine - PlasmaLine - Transport and installation device TRUMPF Laser - CO2 laser TruFlow 4000 with optimized standby mode - Maintenance-free turbo radial blower - High-frequency excitation - TASC laser control - Laser power control - Laser logbook function Cutting head - Lens cutting head with 250 mm lens - Universal quick-change device (UTI) with bus interface - LensLine with condition monitoring - ControlLine: height control and sheet edge detection Control - SINUMERIK 840D SL control - 17" color touch screen - Easy operation - Simple workshop programming - Advanced workshop programming - Fast re-manufacturing - Automatic shutdown - ContourLine - FastLine - FlyLine - Microweld - Production plan - AdjustLine - Teleservice via Internet Data transfer - USB interface - RJ-45 network connection Safety - CE marking - Light barriers - Multi-chamber extraction system - Compact dust extraction unit - Machine enclosure with Macrolon panels Dsdpoxdmgcofx Ahxsku

Condition: ready for operation (used), functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2008, operating hours: 12,800 h, machine/vehicle number: 45881238, control type: CNC control, degree of automation: automatic, actuation type: electric, laser type: CO₂ laser, sheet thickness steel (max.): 10 mm, sheet thickness stainless steel (max.): 8 mm, sheet thickness aluminum (max.): 3 mm, power: 2 kW (2.72 HP), Equipment: CE marking, cooling unit, documentation/manual, dust extraction, nozzle changer, Working area 2520×1550×300 mm • Table load 330 kg • Ball-screw drives Max thickness: mild steel 10 mm, stainless 8 mm, aluminium 3 mm Machine dims 5745×2630×2789 mm • Weight 7.5 t Djdpoxgm Tzefx Ahxeku

Condition: excellent (used), Plasma cutter SAF Nerta Zip 20-40 A Type 0408_2240 380 Volt 10/18 A 220 Volt 16/30 A Cutting current 20/40 A Transport dimension : Length 700 mm width 430 mm height 970 mm Weight 90 kg Dedpfx Ahovdqkvexjku

Condition: excellent (used), functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2015, control type: CNC control, laser source manufacturer: Coherent, laser hours: 910 h, laser power: 350 W, laser wavelength: 10,600 nm, sheet thickness steel (max.): 1 mm, sheet thickness stainless steel (max.): 1 mm, working length: 3,000 mm, working width: 2,000 mm, Equipment: CE marking, cooling unit, dust extraction, emergency stop, fume extraction, SEI Laser Mercury 2030 with Coherent CO₂ Tube, incl. TEKA Extraction System & Icaro Backlight Software & Camera with Registration Mark Detection + Second Cutting Head for Metal Processing – Precision Large-Format Laser Cutting System For sale is an SEI Laser Mercury 2030, equipped with a powerful Coherent CO₂ laser tube, a high-quality TEKA extraction and filtration unit, as well as the original SEI Icaro Backlight control software. This machine delivers precise results in large-format cutting—ideal for demanding applications in sign making, acrylic processing, and metalworking. Technical Specifications: Manufacturer: SEI Laser Model: Mercury 2030 Laser Source: Coherent CO₂ tube Laser Power: 350 W Working Area: approx. 2000 × 3000 mm Control: CNC / SEI Icaro Backlight Software Extraction: Includes TEKA filter unit with pre-filter and activated carbon filter Condition: used, well-maintained, fully functional Availability: immediately Features & Equipment: Class 4 laser thanks to fully enclosed work area Rugged industrial design for continuous operation Coherent CO₂ laser tube – low-maintenance and reliable Icaro Backlight control – ideal for backlight, engraving, and cutting applications Second cutting head for metal processing Includes camera system on the cutting head for registration mark detection High cut quality – clean edges even with intricate shapes Large-format processing of materials such as acrylic, MDF, wood, cardboard, plastics, paper (incl. materials library) High-performance TEKA extraction and filtration for clean workplace air Dkedpfx Aew Rp Htjhxou Exact machine hours will be provided upon request. An on-site inspection is possible by appointment. A test run can be carried out on site.

Condition: ready for operation (used), functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2008, operating hours: 12,800 h, machine/vehicle number: 45561238, control type: CNC control, degree of automation: automatic, actuation type: electric, laser type: CO₂ laser, laser hours: 12,800 h, laser power: 2,000 W, sheet thickness steel (max.): 10 mm, sheet thickness stainless steel (max.): 8 mm, sheet thickness aluminum (max.): 8 mm, power: 2 kW (2.72 HP), Equipment: CE marking, cooling unit, documentation/manual, dust extraction, emergency stop, nozzle changer, Working area 2520×1550×300 mm Dksdpfx Ahexgmnfexju Table load 330 kg Ball-screw drives Machine dims 5745×2630×2789 mm Weight 7.5 t Selling due to buying a new, identical one