Used Barb Wire Machine for sale (66,797)

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2001, overall weight: 3,350 kg, total length: 2,100 mm, total width: 2,000 mm, total height: 2,300 mm, CHARMILLES TECHNOLOGIES ROBOFIL 510with Charmilles control system. Travel paths X/Y/Z: 500 x 350 x 400 mm. Equipped with Erowa chuck, Erowa ITS rotary changer (24-fold), ManoSet XL, and a comprehensive clamping package. Includes additional flushing, water/water heat exchanger, and water cooling unit. Documentation available. Used, functional.Connection 3~ / 400 V / 50 Hz, power 10 kVA, current 15 A.Automatic wire tensioning, precise wire guidance, stable construction.Control console (Siemens), protective devices, emergency stop. Travel X-axis: 500 - mm Weight approx.: 3,350 kg Control: CNC-Steuerung Dimensions (LxWxH) approx.: 2100 x 2000 x 2300 mm Nodpfx Abjy S Axte Uedb Travel Y-axis: 350 - mm Travel Z-axis: 400 - mm Year of construction: 2,001 Condition: in working order Terms of payment: 100% prepayment before pick-up Terms of delivery: From foundation under power: Yes

Condition: refurbished (used), Year of construction: 2007, functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 350 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 250 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 256 mm, AGIECUT Progress V2 Year of manufacture: 2007 Travel distances: X = 350 mm, Y = 250 mm, Z = 256 mm U/V-axis travel range: +/- 70 mm Maximum taper: 30° at 100 mm height Maximum workpiece dimensions: 750 x 550 x 250 mm Maximum workpiece weight: 200 kg (submerged) / 450 kg (non-submerged) Achievable surface finish: Ra 0.20 µm Maximum cutting rate: 500 mm²/min Glass scales on X and Y axes for enhanced precision Nodpfx Aox Uxgleb Uedb Available wire diameters: 0.20 – 0.33 mm Submerged-type machine with automatic wire threading and automatic re-threading after wire break Manual front door (accessible from one side) Includes AGIEJOGGER hand-held pendant for convenient setup AGIE IPG generator with Power Module AGIEVISION control system Dimensions (L x W x H): 1640 x 2040 x 2220 mm Net weight: 2580 kg Our machines are cleaned and completely overhauled after receipt of order. Afterward, a test cut is performed with the finest surface finish for approval. You will receive a 6-month warranty on the machine. We are happy to offer on-site commissioning and training.

Condition: refurbished (used), Year of construction: 2007, functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 350 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 250 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 256 mm, AGIECUT Progress V2 Year of manufacture: 2007 Travel distances: X = 350 mm, Y = 250 mm, Z = 256 mm U/V-axis travel range: +/- 70 mm Maximum taper: 30° at 100 mm height Maximum workpiece dimensions: 750 x 550 x 250 mm Maximum workpiece weight: 200 kg (submerged) / 450 kg (non-submerged) Achievable surface finish: Ra 0.20 µm Maximum cutting rate: 500 mm²/min Glass scales on X and Y axes for enhanced precision Available wire diameters: 0.20 – 0.33 mm Submerged-type machine with automatic wire threading and automatic re-threading after wire break Manual front door (accessible from one side) Includes AGIEJOGGER hand-held pendant for convenient setup AGIE IPG generator with Power Module Nsdpfjzgt Ixex Ab Uedb AGIEVISION control system Dimensions (L x W x H): 1640 x 2040 x 2220 mm Net weight: 2580 kg Our machines are cleaned and completely overhauled after receipt of order. Afterward, a test cut is performed with the finest surface finish for approval. You will receive a 6-month warranty on the machine. We are happy to offer on-site commissioning and training.

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2021, XYZ RMX 3500 3 Axis CNC Bed Milling Machine ProtoTRAK RMX Control YOM 2021 Spindle: 5HP – Programmable 40 – 5000rpm 2 Ranges 40 – 600 & 300 – 5000rpm ISO40 Quill Dia 105mm Table: 1370 x 355mm 4 0ff T Slots T Slot size 15.9mm Max load 600kgs Travel: X – 787mm Y – 508mm Head Vertical (Z) – 500mm Quill (Z) 127mm Dims without travel – 1905 x 2069 x 2225mm Dim with travel – 2758 x 2869 x 2490mm Ndjdpfex D Tbmsx Ab Uob Weight 2430Kgs Power Requirements 22A Air Requirements 6bar YOM 2021 For Sale with Jet Machinery Ltd Jet Machinery Stock Number: #78900 Machine Serial Number: RM310097 £35,000.00 + VAT Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that the above information is accurate it is not guaranteed. We advise prospective purchasers to check any vital details. Health and Safety At Work Act 1974: It is not reasonably practical for ourselves as suppliers to ensure that for your application the goods comply with requirements of the Act with respect to guarding etc. Prospective purchasers should ensure that a guarding specialist inspect the goods prior to use.

Condition: refurbished (used), Year of construction: 2011, functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 350 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 250 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 256 mm, AGIECUT Progress VP2 Year of manufacture: 2011 Travel ranges: X = 350 mm, Y = 250 mm, Z = 256 mm U/V axis travel ranges: +/- 70 mm Maximum taper: 30° at 100 mm height Maximum workpiece dimensions: 750 x 550 x 250 mm Maximum workpiece weight: 200 kg (submerged), 450 kg (non-submerged) Nsdpfjywkuysx Ab Uedb Achievable surface finish: Ra: 0.20 µm Maximum cutting speed: 500 mm²/min Glass scales on X and Y axes for increased precision Available wire diameters: 0.15 – 0.33 mm Submerged wire EDM with automatic wire threading and re-threading after wire breakage Manual front door (accessible from one side) Including AGIEJOGGER handbox for easy setup AGIE IPG-V Generator with Power Module AGIEVISION CNC control Dimensions (L x W x H): 1640 x 2040 x 2220 mm Net weight: 2580 kg Our machines are cleaned and thoroughly overhauled after receipt of order. A test cut with optimal surface finish is then carried out for acceptance. You will receive a 6-month warranty for the machine. We are happy to offer on-site commissioning and training.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1979, weight 200 kg 931855500 Ndsdpsx U A Srsfx Ab Ujb

Condition: refurbished (used), Year of construction: 2012, functionality: fully functional, GF AgieCharmilles CUT 300 Year of manufacture: 2012 Charmilles Millenium control system Ndsdpfjzgt R Hsx Ab Usb Travel ranges (X / Y / Z): 550 x 350 x 400 mm Travel ranges (U / V): 550 x 350 mm Max. conical angle: +/- 30° at a height of 400 mm Integrated Collision Protection (ICP) on all 5 axes Maximum workpiece dimensions: 1200 x 700 x 400 mm Maximum workpiece weight: 1500 kg Cutting speed of 340 mm²/min Best surface finish: Ra 0.2 µm Available wire diameters: 0.15 mm to 0.33 mm Dimensions of the complete system: 2600 x 2540 x 2240 mm Total weight of the system: 3300 kg After receiving your order, we will clean and overhaul the machine and test all functions. You will receive a warranty of 6 months on the machine. We would be happy to offer you the commissioning of the machine.

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2004, WIRE BELT BLAST MACHINE MANUFACTURER: RÖSLER WIRE BELT BLAST MACHINE BRAND: RÖSLER Manufacturer: Rösler Type: RDGE 800-4 Year of manufacture: 2004 Passage width: 800mm Passage height: 550mm Spinning wheel: 4 pieces with frequency converter, Filter system: wet filter system With several inlet and outlet belts. Incl., control cabinet, complete documentation, etc. TOP condition! Ndsdpsv Idf Iefx Ab Uob System is dismantled! WIRE BELT BLAST MACHINE BRAND : RÖSLER Brand: Rösler Type: RDGE 800-4 Year: 2004 Belt Width : 800mm Inlethigh: 550mm Turbine: 4 Pieces with Drivers Filter: Wet Filter With many inlet- and outlet transport belt Incld. Main Panel, complete Doku Very good condition! Machine it s now desmantly Price: Loading on Truck Price: Loading on Truck Warranty: 6-month function and warranty guarantee when commissioned by DECK Sarl. Spare parts supply for the next 10 years Warranty: 6-month Functions- and warranty from DECK Sarl. When DECK Sarl. make the assembly OPTIONAL: Delivery to your factory: Assembly / commissioning / training Assembly by foreman We also offer spare parts for Rösler, Schlick, Wheelabrator, Gietart etc. blasting machines! We can offert for spare parts for Rösler, Shot Blasting Machines!

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1963, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: D06L/7457, Offer Number: D06L/7457 Machinetype: wire and strip bending machine Make: BIHLER Type: RM25 Ndedpjwi S Rtjfx Ab Ueb Constr. year: 1963 dia. range: 0,5-2,5 mm width of band: 50 mm feeding length: 170 mm number of slides: 5 punching power: 5 to output - pieces/min: 225 Location: In our warehouse

Condition: excellent (used), Schroeder & Bauer WB 32-1 Universal Wire and Strip Bending Machine Wire Feed Plain Text Display Press Force Monitoring Wire Straightener Bosch Stripping Devices Bracket and Brush Motor with Attached W32/1-32 Tool Soundproof Cabin Barrels of Copper Wire with Punched Parts Njdpfxeg T S Tds Ab Usdb Control Cabinet Technical Specifications: Drive Power: 7.5 kW Speed (min. - max.): 40-250 rpm Press force / punching unit: 200 kN Longitudinal feed: 250 mm Longitudinal strip width: 50 mm Wire diameter: 6.0 mm Machine weight: 3500 kg Dimensions without electrical components (L x W x H): 3600 x 1500 x 2400 mm Item condition: very good Manufacturer's description, deviations possible. You are purchasing the machine as shown in the pictures. Complete factory closure, large selection of storage platforms, pallet racks, shelving units, and paternosters. High-quality industrial machines, lathes, grinders, and hand tools. Financing through our bank is also possible. komplett-konzept.leasingo.de You can find more punching and bending machines - new and used - in our shop! International shipping costs upon request!

Condition: excellent (used), Schroeder & Bauer WB 32-1 Universal Wire and Strip Bending Machine Wire Feeder Plain Text Display Press Force Monitoring Wire Straightener Bosch Stripping Machines Bracket and Brush Motor with Mounted W32/1-32 Tool Soundproof Cabin Nsdsg T S Taspfx Ab Usdb Drums of Copper Wire with Stamped Parts Control Cabinet Item Condition: Very Good Manufacturer's Description, Deviations Possible. You are purchasing the machine as shown in the pictures. Complete factory closure, large selection of storage platforms, pallet racks, shelving units, and paternosters. High-quality industrial machines, lathes, grinders, and hand tools. Financing through our bank is also possible. komplett-konzept.leasingo.de Find more items - new and used - in our shop! International shipping costs upon request!

Condition: used, CNC Wire EDM Machine AccuteX AU-1000iA | Year 2007 | Large-Scale For sale: a professional, reliable, large-scale wire EDM machine from the renowned Taiwanese manufacturer AccuteX, model AU-1000iA. This machine is ideal for machining large and heavy parts, producing injection molds, dies, and tools with the highest precision. TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS: - Manufacturer: AccuteX - Model: AU-1000iA - Year of manufacture: 2007 - CNC control: Proprietary AccuteX (Windows CE) - Working travels (X × Y × Z): 1100 × 650 × 400 mm - Travels in cone axes (U × V): 150 × 150 mm Ndodpezt Sinefx Ab Ueb - Cone cutting angle: ±21° (for height H=100 mm) - Maximum workpiece weight: up to 5000 kg (fixed table design, moving column) - Supported wire diameters: 0.15 - 0.33 mm - Machining type: Submerged KEY FEATURES AND BENEFITS: - T-Base construction: Extremely stable body made of Meehanite castings, damping vibrations and resistant to thermal and mechanical loads. - Optical (glass) linear scale system guaranteeing repeatability and positioning accuracy at the micro scale. - Original AccuteX Wire Alignment Device for wire centering/positioning (in a dedicated box with wiring). INCLUDED WITH THE MACHINE – A RICH SET OF AUXILIARY EQUIPMENT: - Professional set of EDM clamping elements: numerous clamps, clamping jaws, positioning screws, and pins. - Precision strips and base beams for quick mounting of large parts and molds on the work table. - Additional consumable accessories and wire guiding mechanism components.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2004, functionality: unexamined, machine/vehicle number: 80.4055.0109, workpiece weight (max.): 1,000 kg, travel distance X-axis: 450 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 350 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 360 mm, table width: 700 mm, overall weight: 9,000 kg, table length: 500 mm, Makino EDNC 43 CNC Sinker EDM CNC sinker EDM machine (electrical discharge machining) Njdpowww Sxsfx Ab Usdb Control: Makino MGF / MGF‑20 / MGF‑60 – stable and widely used in industry Working axes: X = 450 mm, Y = 350 mm, Z ≈ 350 mm Table: 700 × 500 mm, load capacity up to 1000 kg C‑Axis: full rotation – ideal for rotary electrodes

Condition: used, FANUC Robocut C 600 iA is a wire cutting EDM designed for precision, high accuracy and reliability. Working table 600×400 mm; max workpiece 1050×820×300 mm; table load 1000 kg; travels X600 Y400 Z310 U200 V200; wire from 0.1 mm. Power supply 50 Hz 3x 400 V; total power 11 kVA; machine weight ~1500 kg; overall 1800×1600×2000 mm. Accessories: lamp, automatic wire threading, Daikin cooling unit, automatic sliding door, glass rulers X,Y, rotating spindle Hirschmann F. Enables tight tolerances; typical applications: automotive, watchmaking, machine tools, aerospace, medical. Nodpfx Ajyxprtsb Ujdb

Condition: used, machine/vehicle number: 8170126, Langarm-Drahtheftmaschine / Long arm Wire Stitching Machine Polygraph 781Kartonagenhefter / Carton Stitcher Typ / Model 781/1L75FR Serial-No. 8170126 Nedjiiilqepfx Ab Uedb Armlänge / Arm length 75cm Fußpedal / Foot pedal Online-Video-Inspection by Skype-Video We would be very pleased with your visit - more machines on Stock Available Immediately - Can be inspect On Stock Emskirchen / Nürnberg - Can be test

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 1995, Combination Unit: Manufacturer: GSG Feeder: Type: 840.02-027 Crusher Descaler: Type: 663.02-017 Wire Range: Ø5.5-16mm For wire rod with approx. 40-60 daN/mm² strength Crushing and Bending Rollers: Carbide Inserts Adjustment with 0.37 kW - 1.15 A gear motor Brush Drive with 0.25 kW gear motor, n=293 rpm Connection Voltage: 380-420 V 50 Hz Dry Coating Unit: Type: BSG/T Filling: Calcium Stearate (e.g., Traxit Type: D S 51 E) Stearate Consumption: approx. 350 g per t of wire Drawing Speed: max. 15 m/s Electrical Power: 2x 0.55 kW gear motors Cassette: 2 slots (supplied with 1x roller block + 1x cassette) Type: PKG/T (TS) Cleaned rolled wire Wire strength approx. 40–60 daN/mm² Wire range max. inlet diameter 9.5mm, finished diameter 3.5–8.5mm Roll dimensions min. Ø115mm, max. Ø125mm, Bore diameter Ø82mm, width 15–25mm Cooling pin diameter 25mm Cooling water consumption approx. 600 l/h Ndodpfsr Nfvmsx Ab Ujb Drawing machine: Manufacturer: Koch Type: KHZ 5000 Year of manufacture: 1993 Serial number: 13.821 Number of draws: 1 draw per block Drawing drum: Ø700mm Tensile force: mechanical 5000 N Wire material: mild steel wires Run-in strength: approx. 40 – 45 daN/mm² Maximum drawing range: Inlet diameter 5.0 – 8.5mm Cross-section reduction: 20 x 25% (mechanical gradation) Drawing speed: up to max. 7.0 m/s Brake: Twiflex, type: MRB Drive: AC motor/frequency converter, Siemens PN=110 kW, n=1485 rpm Spooler: Manufacturer: Koch Type: KHS 1250 Year of manufacture: 1993 Factory No.: 13741 Wire diameter: 5 – 8.5 mm Strength: approx. 55 – 70 daN/mm² Winding speed: V=7 m/s, adapted to the drawing machine Filling weight: approx. 3000 kg Spool drive motor: Three-phase motor with external fan Type: 1 PQ 6253 – 6 AA 70- Z A 15 + K 20 + C 14 + H 46 P=37 kW, n=1000-2000 rpm, IP54, design B3 Laying drive motor: 66-671U, 1.5 kW, 170 V, 9.8 A, 1680 rpm, IP 44, B5-200 With Attached tachometer generator TG 20, 20 V / 1000 rpm With attached spur gear SK 32, i=57.53, design B6 Hydraulics: Hydraulic excavator type: H13 AK Pneumatics: Twiflex disc brake type: MRB Pneumatic cylinder type: SPWG 28032-25mm stroke Dimensions: 3100 x 3000 x 1700 mm (L x W x H) without counterweight

Condition: used, Roll guiding device WITELS-ALBERT Berlin, type ER 7 Guiding roller width: 30 mm Guiding roller diameter: 30 mm Belt cross-section: approx. 1.5 x 10 mm or 0.5 x 25 mm - Individual adjustment for the 3 upper guiding rollers via wing nut and lock nut - Quick-release mechanism via eccentric lever for the 4 lower guiding rollers Ndjdpfxezczvdo Ab Usb - 2 pre-forming guiding rollers, Ø 32 x 13 mm, mounted with a 90° offset - For guiding strip steel, last used for a belt cross-section of approx. 1.5 x 10 mm Space required L x W x H: 250 x 100 x 150 mm Weight: 5 kg Good condition

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2012, Automatic wire threading, Travel range: Ndedpfjzcdwwjx Ab Ueb x 600 mm y 400 mm z 310 mm Includes cooler Machine is in excellent condition.

Year of construction: 2012, condition: ready for operation (used), - USED - WIRE EDM MACHINE WITH AWF Nedpfx Aeytkdrjb Uedb X-AXIS TRAVEL: 750 mm Y-AXIS TRAVEL: 500 mm Z-AXIS TRAVEL: 410 mm U/V-AXIS TRAVEL: ± 100 mm RAPID FEEDS X-Y-Z: 1,3 m/min MAX  PIECE WEIGHT: 3000 Kg MAX PIECE SIZE: 1300 x 1000 x 405 mm TABLE SIZE: 1100 x 875 mm DRAFT ANGLE / DRAFT HEIGHT: ± 15 °; 360 mm WIRE SPEED: 0-15 m/min WIRE DIAMETER: 0,20-0,36 mm CONTROL UNIT: MITSUBISHI 3D Advance WEIGHT: 5700 Kg OVERALL DIMENSIONS: 3495 x 3143 x 2633 mm NOTE: CNC Z AXIS; WIRE CRUSHER; LINEAR SCALES ON X and Y AXIS; 20 Kg REEL OF THREAD UNIT

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2008, functionality: fully functional, workpiece weight (max.): 750 kg, travel distance X-axis: 350 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 220 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 220 mm, wire diameter (max.): 0.3 mm, No minimum price – guaranteed sale to the highest bidder! TECHNICAL DETAILS Travel range, X-axis: 350 mm Travel range, Y-axis: 220 mm Travel range, Z-axis: 220 mm Maximum workpiece dimensions: 1,000 × 550 × 220 mm Maximum workpiece weight: 750 kg Maximum taper: ±45° / 220 mm Standard taper: 30° Wire diameter: 0.1–0.3 mm Cutting speed: 300 mm²/min MACHINE DETAILS Ndodozlnrcepfx Ab Uob CNC control: PC-based multi-processor control Accuracy and surface finish Surface roughness Ra: min. 0.22 µm Measuring resolution: 0.05 µm EQUIPMENT Windows XP Touchscreen

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2007, Travel distance: Nodouu Dl Rjpfx Ab Uodb X 500 mm Y 350 mm Z 300 mm Water bath machine Automatic wire threader

Condition: refurbished (used), Year of construction: 2001, functionality: fully functional, AGIECUT Excellence 3 Year of manufacture: 2001 Travel paths: X= 500 mm, Y= 350 mm, Z= 256 mm U/V-axis travel: +/- 70 mm Maximum taper: 30° at 100 mm height Maximum workpiece dimensions: 1050 x 650 x 250 mm Maximum workpiece weight: 400/800 kg Achievable surface finish: Ra: 0.10 µm Available wire diameters: 0.10 – 0.33 mm Submerged machine with automatic wire threading With automatically lowering tank (accessible from 2 sides) Including AGIEJOGGER handbox for convenient setup Including AGIESETUP 3D AGIEVISION control unit AGIE IPG generator Dimensions (L x W x H): 2800 x 2400 x 2220 mm Net weight: 4500 kg The machine will be cleaned, overhauled, and thoroughly tested by us upon receipt of order. Ndedpfx Aeyx D I Ajb Ueb Includes user training at Techma on your overhauled machine Optional: Transport, commissioning, chiller

Condition: excellent (used), Schroeder & Bauer WB 32-1 Universal Wire and Strip Bending Machine Wire Feed Plain Text Display Press Force Monitoring Wire Straightener Bosch Stripping Devices Bracket and Brush Motor with Attached W32/1-32 Tool Soundproof Cabin Drums for Copper Wire with Punched Parts Control Cabinet Drive Power: 7.5 kW Speed (min. - max.): 40-250 rpm Press force / bending slide: 80 kN Press force / punching unit: 200 kN Longitudinal feed: 2050 mm Longitudinal belt width: 50 mm Wire diameter: 6.0 mm Machine weight: 3500 kg Dimensions without electrical components (LxWxH): 3600 x 1500 x 2400 mm Item condition: very good Manufacturer's description, deviations possible. You are purchasing the machine as shown in the pictures. Complete factory closure, large selection of storage platforms, pallet racks, shelving units, and paternosters. High-quality industrial machines, lathes, grinders, and hand tools. Financing through our bank is also possible. komplett-konzept.leasingo.de Nodpfxsg T S Ttj Ab Uedb Find more items – new and used – in our shop! International shipping costs on request!

Condition: refurbished (used), Year of construction: 2005, functionality: fully functional, workpiece weight (max.): 800 kg, travel distance X-axis: 500 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 350 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 256 mm, total length: 1,050 mm, total width: 650 mm, workpiece height (max.): 250 mm, AGIECUT Excellence 3 eCut Year of manufacture: 2005 Nsdpsyu Iq Eefx Ab Uodb Travel paths: X = 500 mm, Y = 350 mm, Z = 256 mm U/V-axis travel: +/- 70 mm Maximum taper: 30° at 100 mm height Maximum workpiece dimensions: 1050 x 650 x 250 mm Maximum workpiece weight: 400/800 kg Achievable surface quality: Ra: 0.10 µm Available wire diameters: 0.10 – 0.33 mm Submerged tank machine with automatic wire threading With automatically lowering tank (accessible from 2 sides) Including AGIEJOGGER hand box for convenient machine setup Including AGIESETUP 3D AGIEVISION control system AGIE IPG generator with eCut technologies Dimensions (L x W x H): 2800 x 2400 x 2220 mm Net weight: 4500 kg The machine will be cleaned, overhauled, and thoroughly tested by us upon receipt of order. Includes user training at Techma on your overhauled machine Optional services available on request: - Transport - Commissioning - Chiller unit - Clamping devices

Condition: excellent (used), Schroeder & Bauer WB 32-1 Universal wire and strip bending machine Wire feed Plain text display Press force monitoring Wire straightener Bosch wire stripper Holder and brush motor with mounted tool W32/1-32 Soundproof booth Barrel CU wire with punched parts Switch cabinet Item condition: very good Description of the manufacturer, deviations possible.  You buy the machine as it can be seen on the pictures.  Nodoh I Nrqopfx Ab Ujdb Complete factory closure, large selection of storage platforms, pallet racks, shelf racks, paternosters. High quality industrial machines, lathes, grinding machines, hand machines. Financing through our bank is also possible. komplett-konzept.leasingo.de Further articles - new and used - you will find in our shop! International shipping costs on request!