Used 4 Axis Machine for sale (1,00,347)

Condition: used, AWEA BM-1400 is a 4-axis machining center designed for precision, high accuracy and reliability. Table 1500×800 mm; travels X1400 mm, Y800 mm, Z700 mm. Spindle nose ISO 40, 0–12000 t/min (stepless), supply 50Hz 3x400V, total power 40 kVA; weight ≈12000 kg; size L4800×W2850×H3100 mm. Accessories: set of toolholders, high pressure coolant 40 bar, chip conveyor, dividing attachment 4th axis, electronic handwheel, RS‑232 interface, status light. Achieves tight tolerances; typical applications: automotive, aerospace, medical, watchmaking and machine tools. Hjdjyr Hizspfx Ad Uofd

Year of construction: 2004, condition: excellent (used), used machining center Brand: Hermle Model: U740 Year: 2004 Serial No.: 16716 Weight: 7300kg Power: 26KVA CNC: Heidenhain iTNC 530 Type: 4 + 1 axis (Spirsin model 8117CF/225) 16 tool charger. General technical data: Fast forwards: - X axis: 30m/min. - Y axis: 30m/min. - Z axis: 20m/min. - Axis B: 15 rpm. Tours: - X axis: 915mm / 895 to 915mm (Tool holder head -5º to 90º / Tool holder head > 50º to 95º) - Y axis: 500mm (In all positions of the tool holder head) - Z axis: 500mm / 470mm (Tool holder head 90º-95º) Positioning precision in the 3 axes 0.010mm (Temperature at 20º) Maximum load on table: 700kg Hfsdpsktkdbsfx Ad Ued Table measures: 900x500mm Spindle rpm: 12,000rpm Hollow Shaft Water Cooled Spindle Motor Milling head with automatic degree rotation from -5º to +95º sk 40 tool clamping system 16 tool magazine - Maximum tool diameter: 80mm - In case of adjacent free posts maximum tool diameter 100mm - Maximum tool length: 250mm - Maximum tool weight 6kg Cooling system by coolant with a 210L tank and a flow rate of 30Ltrs./min. It has an electronic control for manual handling of the machine. Chip collector: - Brand: BMF - Model: SPE 63/12-300 Z600 - Year: 2004

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2003, Ref. -No.: 10454 Manufacturer: DOOSAN Type: DAEWOO PUMA 300 MSC Year of construction: 2003 Type of control: CNC Control: FANUC 18i-TB Storage location: Halberstadt Hjdpfx Adeym Nbvs Uofd Country of origin: South Korea Machine-No.: 0MS19XX Turning Speeds: 4500 RPM Bar passage: 62 mm Turning Length: 595 mm Turret places: 12 Pcs Further information: - 4 axes (X/Z/C/B) - counter spindle - driven tool station - finished part removal system - conveyor belt - chip conveyor - Powercool coolant system - LNS Quickload Servo 3 bar loader - tool holder - collet holder - collets Machines can be inspected under power by appointment.

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2003, functionality: fully functional, X working area: 3550 mm Hfodpewt Nq Ssfx Ad Usd Y axis stroke: 1100 mm 4 axes Z axis stroke: 425 mm Electrospindles: 1, ISO 30 attachment – max 18000 rpm Tool change positions: 4 Worktable: 4 clamps

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2009, Automatic central lubrication Milling unit 7833 2-stage, 11 kW power 1000 - 24000 rpm 1 double drilling spindle in X-direction 1 integrated sawing unit for sawing / grooving in X-direction, traveling Tool changer 7892, 16-way Linear Pick-up changer, permanently installed on the right-hand side of the machine Laser pointer consisting of 2 laser pointers for positioning the vacuum suction cups or tracing the workpiece contour Automatic console - suction cup positioning 6 consoles including 3 suction cup holders per console including 1 vacuum suction cup 80x80 mm per suction cup holder including 4 feeding aids Additional processing fields at the front for 6 consoles Basic unit pneumatics for frame clamping system 7974 (6 consoles) 2D barcode scanner Video camera in the processing head Vacuum pump 140 m³/h Vario tool Change changing unit package consisting of Consists of: Vector axis 7899 (C-axis), fully interpolating, 0-360° continuously rotatable, including pneumatic tool changer 7890, single-slot magazine pick-up system, permanently installed in front of the machine frame on the left. Tool changer 7894, 6-slot pick-up magazine specifically for Vario Tool Change tool holders, permanently installed in the machine frame on the left, can be equipped with a Vario Grip KSJ F 40 collet chuck, 3 Vario Grip KSJ F 40 tool holders (for 2-20 mm ER32 collets), 1 saw blade holder, 3 collets according to customer selection, 1 carbide circular saw blade, max. 220 mm diameter. Storage location: Nattheim Hjdpjvvi Spsfx Ad Uefd

Condition: used, 4-axis CNC drilling and milling machine IXION Type 30 CNC W VMC, BAZ, machining center Year of construction approx. 1997, machine overhauled in 2020 Travel X: 600 mm Y: 350 mm Z: 600 mm Table size 800 x 400 mm Hjdpeu Tln Nefx Ad Usfd T-slot spacing 75 mm Table load 300 kg Spindle holder SK 40 (tightening bolt DIN 69872 A) Spindle speed 20-5000 rpm Torque at the spindle max. 150 Nm Distance between spindle nose and table max. 660 mm Feed speed X, Y and Z 0 - 5000 mm/min. infinitely variable Rapid traverse speed X, Y and Z 15000 mm/min. Tool change time approx. 5 sec. Tool change time from chip to chip approx. 7.5 sec. Milling capacity in St 60 150 ccm/min. Drilling capacity in St 60 35 mm Thread cutting capacity in St 60 M24 Spindle motor drive power 5 kW (10 kW at 25% duty cycle) Mains connection 400 Volt, 50 Hz - CNC control Heidenhain TNC 415 with 12" TFT display - Electronic handwheel - RS 232 interface - 12-position tool changer - hydro-mechanical tool clamping - Rotary axis as dividing head on the table = 4th axis, MECATECNICA type DCN 250-8, jaws lathe chuck Ø 200 mm Speed approx. 25 rpm, transmission ratio 1:180 - Cabin lighting via 2x halogen spotlights - Chip conveyor with coolant pump - Switch cabinet fixed to the machine Space required for transportation Length 320 cm x width 230 cm x height 300 cm Footprint of the machine with chip conveyor L x W x H 3200 x 3100 x 3000 mm Weight of the machine 3100 kg Weight of the chip conveyor approx. 200 kg good condition

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 1999, For sale is a horizontal machining center from Axa of the Vario type with 2 milling tables. The machine is in good condition and has done little "heavy machining" (was mainly used for drilling and thread cutting). Technical data: Year of manufacture 1999 Control: Heidenhain TNC 410 M digital Table dimensions 2030 mm *500 mm Maximum table load (evenly distributed) 800 kg Min. speed 30 1/min Max. speed 10.000 1/min Drill length on X-axis (mechanical feed) 1760 mm Drill length on Y-axis (mechanical feed) 500 mm Drill length Z-axis (mechanical feed) 620 mm Machine dimensions: Height: 3900 mm Length: 2900 mm Width: 3000 mm Weight: 9 tons SCOPE OF DELIVERY/EQUIPMENT 1 spindle version SK 40 DIN 69 871 A Hfodpett Abmjfx Ad Uod 1 switch cabinet (integrated in the rear of the machine) Ball screws: Made by Deutsche Star Central lubrication unit: Bielomatik Hydraulic unit: Hydac RTA 2-300 MK-3 tailstock manually operated Electric handwheel HR 410 Scraper belt conveyor discharge side right Measuring probe TS 630 WORKPIECE HOLDERS NOT INCLUDED IN THE OFFER Prices plus value added tax Viewing possible by appointment. Contact us, our team will be happy to help you. Trade-in or exchange possible! Machines purchase / sale PURCHASE / SALE OF PRODUCTION & METALWORKING MACHINES AND MUCH MORE. Do you need a high-quality but inexpensive metalworking machine for your production? Or do you want to sell yours? For further information or contact options, please visit our website

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2001, DECKEL MAHO DMU 80T MACHINING CENTRE, 4 AXES Hfodjyt Sh Sopfx Ad Usd CNC HEID. 430 X 880 Y 630 Z 630 Automatic 90° x 90° head Spindle 12,000 rpm / 7,400 spindle hours ATC with 32 tool positions SK 40 Very good condition

Year of construction: 2018, condition: good (used), 4-axis machining center 4 pneumatic clamps with automatic positioning Hedpsyr R Ibefx Ad Ujfd automatic tool change 2 pneumatic endstops software 3D camplus

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2014, Used machine Year of manufacture: 2014 Features and technical data: - Working area X: 3,740 mm Hfedpfxex Hllxs Ad Uod - Working area Y: 1,570 mm - Working area Z: 350 mm - 4th axis: available - 5th axis: 5-axis spindle, 12 kW motor - with additional C-axis locking - Tool changer positions: 24 with rotary magazine; 10 in the left side of the machine stand - Vertical drilling spindles: 12 - Machine table: console table - Table positioning automation: available - 6 workpiece supports, type e-motion - Special workpiece clamping system for frames - Software: FORMAT 4 WOOD FLASH, TPA ALBATROS - 2 machining areas for pendulum operation - with automatic central lubrication - with mobile control panel with PC monitor - with air conditioning for control cabinet - with vacuum pump 90 m³/h - with hand-held control device - Included: 12 frame clamps, 8 large and 4 medium suction cups Availability: short-term Location: Röllbach

Condition: excellent (used), 4-axis CNC machine usefull lenght 7500 mm Dynamic pendular over 2 zones 8 pneumatic clamps with CNC positioning Hodpfx Adsyrguqo Ujfd automatic tool change Software 3D Camplus

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2001, Parts shown by hand not come. • Daewoo MYNX 540, Baujahr 2001 • die Spindel wurde im Frühling 2025 revidiert, neue Lager!! • die 4.Achse gehört mit dazu • ACHTUNG, das liegende 3-Backenfutter NICHT Arbeitsbereich X-Achse mm 1020 Y-Achse mm 510 Z-Achse mm 625 Aufspanntisch Tischgrösse mm 1200 x 500 4 T-Nuten mm 18H8 Hodpfx Aoyfg Taod Usfd T-Nuten Abstand mm 125 Abstand Tisch-Spindelnase mm 150 - 775 Abstand Spindelmitte-Ständer mm 520 Tischbelastung kg 800 Spindelstock Antriebsleistung kW 11/15 Drehzahlbereich, stufenlos U/min 80 - 8000 Bereich konstanter Leistung U/min 750 - 8000 Drehmoment, max. Nm 190 Spindelkonus DIN 69871A ISO 40, SK40 Anzugsbolzen DIN 69872 STANDARDZUBEHOER • - FANUC CNC-Bahnsteuerung Modell 21 i-MA mit 9,5" LCD Monochrom Bildschirm, • Teileprogrammspeicher 32 kB/80 m • - RIGID TAPPING - Gewindebohren ohne Ausgleichsfutter • - 24-fach Tellermagazin • - Werkzeugaufnahme im Spindelkonus ISO 40, DIN 69871A/DIN 69872, SK40 • - FANUC AC-Hauptantrieb mit 11/15 kW Motor • - Drehzahlbereich 80-8000 U/min, stufenlos • - Kühlmittelversorgung aus dem 300 Litertank, Pumpe 1,5 bar SONDERZUBEHOER • - Spindelölkühler • - Kühlmittelzufuhr durch die Spindel (Form A) DIN 69871 • mit 10 bar Pumpe und Patronenfilter • - Kühlmittelpumpe 6 bar • - Vorbereitung für 4. Achse • - KITAGAWA CNC-Rundtisch Typ RS 250 RAHO • mit Motor Fanuc und 4. Achse in Maschine

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 1999, Offered is a travelling column machining center: rotary table: 1500mm, travels X/Y/Z: 1600mm/800mm/800mm, tool holder: SK50, spindle drive: 60kW, speed range: 20 to 6000rpm, tool changer: 30 positions, machine weight approx. 19200kg, machine dimensions X/Y/Z approx. 6000mm/4000mm/3200mm. Incl.: internal coolant supply, chip conveyor, chip flushing system, approx. 60 pieces SK50 tool holders, 3-jaw chuck. Inspection possible by arrangement. Hfodpfx Adoylbqye Uod

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2001, Technical data: Tool holder: SK 40 Travels: X-axis: 530 mm Y-axis: 450 mm Z-axis: 450 mm Max. Tool weight: 260 kg Spindle speed: 12000 1/min Max. Table load: 380 kg Weight, approx.: 6500 kg Dimensions (DxWxH), approx.: 2000 x 2200 x 2400 mm Hfjdpfxjt Hr Ahj Ad Ued Equipment: - Control Heidenhain TNC 430 - 4-axis from SMP (France)

Condition: used, Servo press brake SAFAN Type SMK-P 50-2550 TS1 Serial No. MK 285 Year of manufacture 1998 CNC Control SAFAN Software Version 5.07 TS1 Pressing force 500 kN (50 tons) Working length 2550 mm Stroke 215 mm Clearance between side frames 2700 mm Tool installation height max. 414 mm Table width 55 mm Table height above floor 950 mm Approach speed approx. 75 mm/s Return speed approx. 75 mm/s Working speed approx. 1.6 to 15 mm/s Motor power 9 kW Power supply 400 Volt, 50 Hz, 9 kW - 4-axis CNC control SAFAN Software Version 5.07 TS1, Y1 and Y2 axis for press beam - 2-axis back gauge: X-axis (depth adjustment), R-axis (height adjustment) - 2 back gauge fingers, lateral manual adjustment (Z1, Z2) Hfjdpfjxpqy Dox Ad Ujd - Press beam driven by 2 servomotors and belt drive - Infinitely variable working speed - Operation via electric foot switch and/or two-hand control panel - 13 clamping holders for upper tool UKB system, Type 50.571 (UKB System A) - Tool mount for lower tool: 55 mm wide with 13 mm slot, slot depth 21 mm (Trumpf system or UKB System B) - Without press brake tools (new tool set from UKB costs approx. EUR 3,600 net) - Total recorded operating hours = 8,120 h - Work strokes 1,049,789 Space requirement (L x W x H): 3450 x 1850 x 2650 mm Weight 5,000 kg Good condition

Year of construction: 2005, condition: ready for operation (used), A Maka CNC 4-axis milling and drilling machine for plastic, wood and aluminum is available. Travel X/Y/Z: 2000mm/6000mm/250mm, C-axis: 360°, rapid traverse X/Y/Z: 45m/min/45m/min/24m/min, spindle mount: HSK63, spindle power: 12kW, spindle speed: 24000rpm. Tool places: 12, angle head places: 3, machine dimensions X/Y/Z: 12000mm/5700mm/3200mm, control: BWO 920, documentation available. On-site inspection is possible. Hfedpfx Asvmq Tvjd Uod

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2004, weight max. 1,5 t weight of the machine ca. 400 kg Hfjdpfx Aoxylq Sed Ujd Accessories for a 4th axis machining center used on a HEDELIUS machine

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2011, functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 800 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 460 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 500 mm, controller manufacturer: FANUC, controller model: FANUC Oi-MD, table width: 420 mm, table length: 900 mm, number of spindles: 2, number of slots in tool magazine: 20, tool diameter: 40 mm, number of axes: 4, Equipment: documentation/manual, 4th axis: rotary table included; Hfsdpoygg Itsfx Ad Usd

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2006, 1 used 4-axis horizontal machining center Brand Haas Type EC 1600 Year of manufacture 2006 Travel ranges X-axis 1626 mm Y-axis 1270 mm Z-axis 813 mm Spindle centerline to table 304 mm Spindle SK 50 Max. rated power 22.4 kW Max. speed 7500 rpm Max. torque 460.0 Nm 700 rpm Table size Length 1626 mm Width 914 mm T-slot width 16.00 mm T-slot center-to-center distance 125 mm Number of T-slots in standard configuration: 7 Max. load capacity on table (evenly distributed) 4536 kg Integrated 4-axis (B-axis) Table 1626 mm x 813 mm mm Clamping surface diameter 762 mm Adjustability 360° Max. workpiece swing diameter 1270 mm Table load 4536.0 kg Max. rated power 3.7 kW Rotational torque (continuous) 2712 Nm Hfedsv N Di Aepfx Ad Ued Backlash 30 arc-sec Gear ratio 500:1 Braking torque 5423 Nm Minimum resolution 0.001° Indexing accuracy ± 30 arc-sec Repeatability 15 arc-sec Rapid traverse rate on B axis 36°/sec Max. feed rate for machining on B axis 36°/sec Spindle centerline to table 146 mm Max. feed rate for machining in x, y, and z axes 12.7 m/min Rapid traverse rate on X axis 15.2 m/min Rapid traverse rate on Y axis 15.2 m/min Rapid traverse at Z 15.2 m/min Axis motors 30-station tool changer Max. tool diameter (full) 102 mm Max. tool diameter (adjacent positions empty) 254 mm Max. tool length 508 mm Max. tool weight 13.6 kg Tool-to-tool (average) 8.00 s Chip-to-chip (average) 12.60 s General information Coolant tank capacity 360 L Dimensions Domestic pallet 488 cm x 366 cm x 346 cm Export crate 488 cm x 366 cm x 348 cm Weight 13608.0 kg

Year of construction: 2023, condition: like new (used), functionality: fully functional, 4 axis stone CNC machine for edge finishing/ tap and sink holes - fits BT40ER40/80 - 15 tool holders included - vacuum pump included - including automatic zero point determination via compressed air cylinders - excluding water installation - control cabinet dimensions 900x600x1800 mm Hedpfev Dulqjx Ad Uefd

Condition: refurbished (used), Year of construction: 2018, functionality: fully functional, feed length X-axis: 350 mm, travel distance X-axis: 6,500 mm, rapid traverse Z-axis: 350 m/min, spindle speed (max.): 24,000 rpm, spindle speed (min.): 1,000 rpm, overall weight: 4,500 kg, working range: 6,500 mm, spindle motor power: 7 W, Headline Options: - Boost Your Production with the Refurbished NEXUS REV 8000 4-Axis CNC Machining Center! - Precision & Power: The Ultimate 4-Axis CNC Solution for Aluminum Doors & Windows Hfodpfx Aexfqg Ned Ujd - Maximize Efficiency: High-Speed, Double-Station CNC Machining Center Key Selling Points (Short & Punchy): - 4-Axis CNC Power: Machine complex profiles from the top and all angles (±90°) with incredible precision. - High-Speed Spindle: 7.5 kW spindle reaching 24,000 rpm for fast, clean cuts even on thick profiles. - Double-Station Design: Two independent 6.5-meter workstations for non-stop productivity—machine one profile while setting up the next. - Exceptional Accuracy: Advanced gantry system with dual servo motors ensures perfect alignment and vibration-free operation. - Smart Tool Management: 8-position automatic tool magazine handles tools from 1 mm up to 300 mm disc cutters. - Plug-and-Play Software: Included UNILINK CAD-CAM software streamlines operation from design (DXF) to finished part with automatic tool and clamp management. - Fully Refurbished & Guaranteed: Completely overhauled by NEXUS TECHNICA experts, backed by a 6-month warranty and full future support. Technical Highlights for the Ad: - Work Envelope (X, Y, Z): 6,500 mm x 350 mm x 350 mm (Double Station) - Spindle: 7.5 kW, 24,000 rpm - Control: Advanced CNC with movable terminal (PC, keyboard, mouse included) - Tool Magazine: 8 positions (handles large disc cutters) - Clamping: 10 manually positioned pneumatic clamps (automatic positioning optional) - Software: UNILINK 3D CAD-CAM software - Condition: Professionally refurbished and modernized Ideal For: - Manufacturers of aluminum windows, doors, and sliding systems - Companies working with long aluminum profiles - Businesses aiming to automate and boost production capacity Call to Action: Ready to revolutionize your profile machining? Contact us today for more information and to arrange a viewing!

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2005, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 5002, travel distance X-axis: 850 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 600 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 600 mm, controller manufacturer: FANUC, controller model: Oi-MC, table width: 600 mm, table length: 1,050 mm, table load: 850 kg, spindle speed (max.): 15,000 rpm, spindle motor power: 7,500 W, number of spindles: 2, number of slots in tool magazine: 24, tool diameter: 40 mm, number of axes: 4, Equipment: chip conveyor, documentation/manual, Tool Standard is BT-40. Hfodpsx Nctfsfx Ad Ujd 4th axis: rotary table included;

Year of construction: 2025, condition: new, XX100292 New CNC Machining centre with 4 controlled axes FOM INDUSTRIE FMC 470 Machine in stock and ready for shipping Standard configuration: - Liquid-cooled electrospindle 7 kW, 20,000 rpm (HSK-F63) - 9 location tool magazine on head (HSK-F63) - No. 2 pairs of pneumatic vices with positioning through the travelling column - No. 2 pairs of low profile jaws for clamping wide profiles - Left pneumatic reference stop - Minimum quantity lubrication (MQL) with pure oil - Central automatic greasing system and device for manual greasing - Chip and waste collection tank in base - Perimeter guard system with automatically opening, front retractable doors - X FLOW (automatic orientation of lubricant nozzles) - Control: POWER-D Hedoiv Imnspfx Ad Uofd - Movable control console - 24” display - FST CAM 4 program Optional equipment installed on the machine: - PR202941 Fixed tool magazine for 8 positions in the center on the machine base - PR202962 Device for checking the integrity and measuring tool length - ZR204058 Pendulum mode with multiple workpieces (2 work areas, 4 workpieces) and processing of non-standard lengths with X-PAL: • Two pairs of additional vices with independent positioning • Transformation of std vices into vices with independent positioning • LED bar • Profile positioning software • Software for viewing the progress of the processing cycle • Device for measuring profile length • Second X-FLOW • Right pneumatic reference stop • Pendulum control software • Safety devices for pendulum processing • Tunnel for oversized profile machining • Software to manage oversized machining operations • ''Clock'' time calculation module program - PR202971 Data import software in accordance to FOM protocol and wireless optical bar code and QR code reader - ZP715010 Module for rigid tapping and chase tapping - PR202957 Hinged belt conveyor with ramp - PR203389 Rear chip collection tank - PR202975 Tool set A3/HSK F63 - PR202967 Angle head with vertical disc Ø 230 mm - PR202968 Cone with horizontal disc Ø 250 mm - PR204497 Holder HSKF63 with cutter Ø 200 x 6 mm - PR203072 Software adjustment of the vice pressure 3,5 - 7 bar - ZP714611 License for the office version of FST CAM 4

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2017, Operating hours: 51,800 h Program run hours: 15,100 h Technical Data: Travel paths/axes X = 800 mm Y = 850 mm Hfsdpfx Ajxqp Ivod Uod Z = 1,050 mm B = 360°, 0.001° Max. spindle speed: 12,000 rpm Total connected load: 77 kVA Required space, LxWxH: 9,000 x 5,500 x 4,000 mm Weight: 18,100 kg Equipment: - Siemens 840D - Electronic handwheel - Heavy-duty machining package - Tool changer, rotary magazine with 180 places - Tool holder HSK 100 - Operator control panel - Internal coolant supply - Measurement and monitoring: Renishaw, infrared TDS, MPC

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2002, operating hours: 9,366 h, functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 1,020 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 610 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 560 mm, spindle speed (max.): 10,000 rpm, number of slots in tool magazine: 40, TECHNICAL DETAILS X-axis travel: 1,020 mm Y-axis travel: 610 mm Z-axis travel: 560 mm Spindle Spindle speed: 10,000 rpm Spindle power: 11–15 kW Hfedpfswi Iw Aox Ad Usd Pallet system Number of pallets: 2 Pallet size: 1,050 × 550 mm Cooling system High-pressure coolant system: 15 bar Tool changer Tool magazine: Chain type Number of tool positions: 40 Control system Control system: Fanuc 18M MACHINE DETAILS Overall dimensions (L × W × H): 4,020 × 2,660 × 3,080 mm Machine weight: 12,000 kg On-time: 37,210 h Operating hours: 9,366 h EQUIPMENT - Chip conveyor included - 4th axis integrated as a table